Flameous Posted November 21, 2010 Report Share Posted November 21, 2010 Adding more relays to seminatural base of openings, I came up with this structure. (Basically it's just dejeuner relays adjusted)The thing going on with clubs is that 1D can have longer clubs. Majors don't (Unless 56)I don't have the suits in specific order as you can see because the main suit isn't know, however I tried to put two shorter suits in right order. 2C (Bal or clubs, GF) -> 2D = 4+C 2H->2S = H 2NT->3C= three suited 3D->3H=1444 3S=0445 3NT=0454 3D= LL 3H->3S=5512 3NT=5503 4C=6511 4D=6502 3H=1354 3S=1264 3NT=0364 2NT = Low, LL/longer clubs 3C->3D = LL (5521) 3H = H (5530) 3S->3NT=1345 4C=1246 4D=0346 3S = 3145 (5611) 3NT= 2146 (5602) 4C = 3046 (5620) 3C = low, three suited 3D-> 3H = 4144 3S = 4045 3NT = 4054 3D = no 3H = 3154 3S = 2164 3NT = 3064 2H = 4+D 2S->2NT = H 3C = LL, low 3D = No or threesuited 3H = 5431 3S = 6421 3NT = 6430 4C = 7411 4D = 7420 2S = 4+H, high shortness or no shortness 2NT -> 3C = LL 3D-> 3H = 5512 3S = 5503 3NT = 6511 4C = 6502 3D = 5422 3H = 5431 3S = 6421 3NT = 6430 4C = 7420 4D = 7411 2NT = 4+H, low shortness 3C -> 3D = LL 3H = 5431 3S = 6421 3NT = 6430 4C = 7420 3C = H/no 3D->3H = 6331 3S = 7321 3NT = no 4C = 7330 3D = M 3H->3S = 6331 3NT = 7321 4C = 7330 3H = 6331 3S = 7(32)1 3NT = 7330+++:All but few wild shapes resolve at 3NT or below. (Except room problem with high shortness club canape :( )It is (relatively) very easy to rememberFits for all three openings pretty nicely (Main exception is 3C as three-suited which is just one shape after majors) ---:All single-suiters without shortness are lumped in the same. Especially 7th card can make quite a difference. Same goes for 71(32)There's no min/max -> relay must be practically GF. (Over 1D inv+ with Ds is fine) Of course with min/max you can show only half the shapes in the same room. So it works well only for limited openings, the narrower the range, the better. I just want some input, what obvious I have missed B) Experiences of using something along these lines and some with min/max if you have used both would be nice. How narrow opening ranges should be? What after shape is resolved, will ZZ-ask and DCB work as in our 1C relays? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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