BBF Christmas Swiss (Dec. 18/19)

[mgoetze]

OK, it seems like almost everyone who wanted to play likes December 18th/19th, and there was a decent majority for a two-day event. Therefore, the dates are set. This is a good time to start encouraging your favourite partner to work his way to 25 posts.

 

Unfortunately the poll was not so clear about the length of rounds people prefer. It seems that 12 boards is a suitable compromise. I expect 3 rounds of 12 boards to be doable in 4-5 hours, but if someone with more experience would like to contribute an opinion, do let me know.

 

I will start accepting registrations immediately. Teams of 4-6, team total post count at least 500, at least 3 team members with post count >=25. Please specify a team captain who will be responsible for communicating with me and making the line-ups. The team captain should ideally not have a Hotmail address, as they eat (or burn?) my emails. Please register either in this thread or via email to mgoetze at mgoetze dot net.

 

The event will be canceled if I receive less than 4 registrations by Sunday, December 12th. The system will be switched to round-robin if there are less than 7 registrations.

[jukmoi]

I voted mainly because I might want to kibitz the game so you may disregard my vote on other issues.

[mgoetze]

I voted mainly because I might want to kibitz the game so you may disregard my vote on other issues.

 

Well if that is the reason I will disregard your vote on all issues... the goal of this poll is to make the event as attractive as possible for potential players.

[TimG]

Let's move on to the important stuff: system regulations in effect will be? :)

[mtvesuvius]

Let's move on to the important stuff: system regulations in effect will be? :)

IMO it should be similar to the WBF regulations:

 

http://www.worldbridge.org/departments/laws/internationalcode/international.asp

[mgoetze]

Let's move on to the important stuff: system regulations in effect will be? :)

 

Haha... OK, no HUMs, Max. 4 BSCs per Team, BSCs must be registered on the forums by the end of Saturday, December 11th. Sound fair?

[pooltuna]

Haha... OK, no HUMs, Max. 4 BSCs per Team, BSCs must be registered on the forums by the end of Saturday, December 11th. Sound fair?

 

 

Well I know what a HUM is but BSC threw for a loop. Probably not a problem but need to know what it is to comply.

[mgoetze]

Well I know what a HUM is but BSC threw for a loop. Probably not a problem but need to know what it is to comply.

 

Any opening which is neither strong nor shows an anchor suit, with the explicit exception of Multi 2♦. Common examples are Wilkosz 2♦, Multi 2♥, 2NT preempt in either minor, etc.

[TimG]

OK, no HUMs. Sound fair?

Where do limited transfer openings fall?

[mgoetze]

Where do limited transfer openings fall?

 

If your 1♦ opening always shows hearts, it has an anchor suit, so it's fine. If it only shows hearts some of the time, it's probably a BSC.

[CarlRitner]

If your 1♦ opening always shows hearts, it has an anchor suit, so it's fine. If it only shows hearts some of the time, it's probably a BSC.

 

 

BSC = 2.4 Brown Sticker Conventions and Treatments

[Flameous]

Actually if it shows heart part of the time and shows either other suit/shortness in hearts other time, it's hum. So I guess hearts or any bal would go as a legal opening. (Note, only conventions on 2 lvl and higher are brown stickers, 1 lvl openings are only looked for hum purposes)

But someone tell me this one thing that keeps bothering me. I know multi including strong option is not brown sticker. But how about multi with just weak options? I think there are some national regulations about this one but what are the rules we use?

 

Edit: Whee, my post number 200 :lol:

Edited November 23, 2010 by Flameous

[paulg]

But someone tell me this one thing that keeps bothering me. I know multi including strong option is not brown sticker. But how about multi with just weak options? I think there are some national regulations about this one but what are the rules we use?

 

The WBF Systems Policy says:

 

"A two level opening bid in a minor showing a weak two in either major, whether with or without the option of strong hand types, ..." is not a Brown Sticker Convention as there is an explicit exception (for historical reasons).

[wank]

I know multi including strong option is not brown sticker. But how about multi with just weak options? I think there are some national regulations about this one but what are the rules we use?

 

as others have said, a BSC is non-strong opening at the 2 level lacking an anchor suit in the non-strong hands, aside from a multi 2C or 2D. to qualify as a non-BSC multi 2C/D they must have a spade or heart suit when weak. so a "multi 2C" which shows diamonds, hearts or spades is still a brown sticker for example.

 

some countries have more permissive regulations, e.g England, and I'm sure Australia. On the other hand you've got the ACBL......

[mgoetze]

The first registration has arrived, hooray! Meanwhile BBO Support has only allowed me 3 simultaneous team matches for the moment... better be one of the first 7 teams to register if you want to be safe. ;) (of course once I get the 6th or 7th registration I will ask again...)

 

I'm planning to let this poll run until Friday or Saturday before announcing the final conditions, I hope that's OK for everyone. Also, I'm planning on no barometer, does anyone feel strongly that there should be a barometer?

[mtvesuvius]

The first registration has arrived, hooray! Meanwhile BBO Support has only allowed me 3 simultaneous team matches for the moment... better be one of the first 7 teams to register if you want to be safe. ;) (of course once I get the 6th or 7th registration I will ask again...)

 

I'm planning to let this poll run until Friday or Saturday before announcing the final conditions, I hope that's OK for everyone. Also, I'm planning on no barometer, does anyone feel strongly that there should be a barometer?

I agree strongly with no barometer, and also if you need, you can create more matches with alternate accounts of yours (or I can do it with one of mine lol)

[mgoetze]

(or I can do it with one of mine lol)

 

Yes... and I see you also voted for duplicated boards. :P

 

More seriously though, if someone would like to volunteer as assistant TD, that would also be appreciated.

[mtvesuvius]

Yes... and I see you also voted for duplicated boards. :P

 

More seriously though, if someone would like to volunteer as assistant TD, that would also be appreciated.

Haha :) My laptop is downstairs in my room... Desktop is upstairs in civilization =)

 

I do think it would be nice to discuss/post problem hands after, but perhaps duplicated boards wouldn't be too easy to do (and it wouldn't be practical for earlier rounds...)

[mgoetze]

I do think it would be nice to discuss/post problem hands after, but perhaps duplicated boards wouldn't be too easy to do (and it wouldn't be practical for earlier rounds...)

 

It's easy enough if I can start all the matches myself (though admittedly I wouldn't mind if it were easier yet)...

[TimG]

Forget that...

[mgoetze]

Well, voting has slowed to a trickle so here's the deal.

 

Start time on both days will be 19:30 Europe/13:30 US East Coast. By "start time", I mean the time when the first bid or pass is supposed to be made - team captains will be expected to be available 15 minutes before this time. After three rounds of swiss, teams will be split into brackets of 4 teams, the top team in each bracket getting to choose their opponents for the semifinals. Semifinals and finals will consist of 1 segment of 16 boards each. (This all assumes more than 6 teams register, otherwise we'll be playing a round-robin with three or five 12 board matches.)

 

All rounds will be duplicated, kibitzers allowed. Please do not kibitz any matches until you have finished playing the round - I would hate to have to disqualify a team. No barometer.

 

In the swiss rounds, there will be no appeals - all decisions by the chief TD are final. In the semifinals and finals I will allow appeals. Appeal deposit is 10 BB$.

 

There has only been one registration so far, please make use of our partnership desk at http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/topic/42935-bbf-christmas-swiss-partnership-desk/ .

 

Any questions?

[mgoetze]

The event will be canceled if I receive less than 4 registrations by Sunday, December 12th.

 

I would just like to remind you folks that this deadline is next weekend.

[Flameous]

I warn thee of our scary brown sticker convention!

 

We use 2NT as a bad pre-empt in either minor, thus 3m promises always 2/3 tops.

I have no idea what is a good defence, so if you come up with one, I'd like to hear it too :P

 

We have only one BSC for whole team, kinda lame <_<

[mgoetze]

Great, now we just need another 3 registrations in the next 30 hours.

[mgoetze]

Congratulations to Flameous, Suokko, Kaapo and Derric. As the only registrants, they win by default.

 

Oh well, maybe another team would like to play them on, say, Saturday evening? I'll be happy to set up the matches if desired.