mtvesuvius Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 [hv=pc=n&s=saq73hk942dakt52c&n=s92hdqj973ck87653&d=e&v=b&b=10&a=1cd1s3dp4c4h5cp5dppp]266|200|ATB for missing 6♦... And would you want to be there?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 South fears ♥. Someone is speeding though, at the table, West can not have all these hcps. I think it is south to bid 6 with AK trump , a void in opponent suit, and ♠A. But i don't know NS pass forcing agreements over 4♥ A pass by North over 4♥ would be forcing, south started a forcing pass auction by 4♣. But is that pass by North showing ♥ control or willing to go further is beyond me, i would like to hear what everyone else say. I have a feeling it will come down to pdship agreement of this pair over 4♥ bid. Perhaps pass on 4♥ and then bid 5♣ if pd doubles ? That must be the strongest, however i am not quite sure if North has that hand. Overall North bid much more than i would have and i think it is South to bid 6. Eventhough i dont like that 5♣ bid. And Yes i wld like to be in 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 I'll settle for 5♦ and hope they don't lead a thrumph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 Don't think I'd want to be there. West is loaded with the majors so it seems like clubs aren't breaking and it seems a bit difficult on a trump lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 slam is almost hopeless on a trump lead (needs a miracle of ♣Axx), and on a non trump lead it needs a finese, why would I want to play there? About the bidding, south hhas 2 cuebids avaible and is not sure wich one is a cuebid and wich one is natural, I have problems deciding it too actually. I think he is correct that 3♠ looks more natural than 4♣. North's 5♣ I don't understand, he wanted to encourage slam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 West is marked with at least 5-5 in the majors. So East will typically have at least 5♣ headed by the ace and the ♥ ace for his opening bid. Since West has at least 5 cards in ♠ and East at most two, West few goodies will often consist of the king of ♠.On a trump lead I can see 10 tricks. If you would have asked ATB for reaching 6♦, I would give most of the blame to North.South showed good judgment by bidding only 5♦ Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I wouldn't want to be in 6♦, although I like every lead except trumps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I wouldn't want to be in 6♦, although I like every lead except trumps...Yup, and isn't 5503 quite a likely shape for W, so you may not get a trump lead, but I agree I don't want to be in 6. I'd have overcalled 1♦ rather than doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 Yup, and isn't 5503 quite a likely shape for W, so you may not get a trump lead, but I agree I don't want to be in 6. I'd have overcalled 1♦ rather than doubled.I think not doubling with south's hand is very wrong, your most likelly game is always 4M, and the sooner you find your fit the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think not doubling with south's hand is very wrong, your most likelly game is always 4M, and the sooner you find your fit the better. +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 22, 2010 Report Share Posted November 22, 2010 I think not doubling with south's hand is very wrong, your most likelly game is always 4M, and the sooner you find your fit the better.Since 1♦ over 1♣ consumes no space, we don't bid it on rubbish, partner will respond as if I'd opened 1♦. as standard on these boards is a potentially short club, it's unlikely LHO will bid a lot of clubs, so if partner has a major, there's a very good chance he'll be able to bid it next. If he raises ♦ I'll bid ♥ and he can bid ♠ over this. Also if it does go (1♣)-1♦-3♣-P-P- I can happily double to show this hand. The only possible issue is if the auction goes (1♣)-1♦-2/3♣-3♦-5♣, but you're not certain to be any better off if you've doubled. Also slightly prejudiced by partner holding something like KJx, void, QJ9x, KJ108xx last time I faced this auction and 1Cx didn't play that badly while 7♦ was on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellache Posted November 23, 2010 Report Share Posted November 23, 2010 I'd never want to be in 6♦ with those hands given the bidding. I'd just hope they don't lead a trump in 5♦ ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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