McBruce Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 [hv=pc=n&s=s842hat932dcaqjt6&w=skqjthk764dk843c7&n=s97hqj5dat76c9853&e=sa653h8dqj952ck42&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=p1hd1s2spp3h4dppp]399|300[/hv] The 2♠ call was explained as 'natural, at least 4 spades' when North asked after it was passed around to him. North expressed considerable doubt that 2♠ was actually natural and asked several follow up questions as to whether it might in fact be a cue-bid, and what other options East had. When North turned out to have psyched the 1♠ call, E-W were not amused. 4♦ was not a success, while 4♠ would have been fine, had North not talked E-W into believing that perhaps they had a misunderstanding. How do you rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pran Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 [hv=pc=n&s=s842hat932dcaqjt6&w=skqjthk764dk843c7&n=s97hqj5dat76c9853&e=sa653h8dqj952ck42&d=e&v=0&b=14&a=p1hd1s2spp3h4dppp]399|300[/hv] The 2♠ call was explained as 'natural, at least 4 spades' when North asked after it was passed around to him. North expressed considerable doubt that 2♠ was actually natural and asked several follow up questions as to whether it might in fact be a cue-bid, and what other options East had. When North turned out to have psyched the 1♠ call, E-W were not amused. 4♦ was not a success, while 4♠ would have been fine, had North not talked E-W into believing that perhaps they had a misunderstanding. How do you rule? Law 73D2 (Misleading opponents with remarks e.g. questions) Law 73E (This deception was not through a call or play) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 North is coffeehousing, and blatantly so. Give him a PP for that. Adjust the score to 4♠ making 4 by EW for both sides (although I think one might make a case for an overtrick, either for both sides or for the OS). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Give North a swingeing penalty. And adjust, obviously. That is beneath contempt. I don't think South will double 4♠ because it will (from his perspective) just get pulled to 5♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Any thoughts to 4Sx, or 5Hx, or is it going to be screamingly obvious that North psyched? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmat Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 4♠X? :) the double coming form south... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Im sure it's not legal but I would rule 4♠ doubled plus 1 to show my utter contempt for the coffee housing and pray that north had the gall to bring it in front of a committee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
campboy Posted November 19, 2010 Report Share Posted November 19, 2010 Im sure it's not legal but I would rule 4♠ doubled plus 1 to show my utter contempt for the coffee housing and pray that north had the gall to bring it in front of a committee.It's certainly legal, it's just a judgement question as to whether the score is "at all probable" (to give it to N/S) or "likely" (to give it to both sides). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBruce Posted November 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 We all want to adjust to 4♠ based on an infraction that occurred AFTER West passed 2♠? What makes you think that a side willing to pass in a partscore is going to compete all the way to 4♠ without the razzle-dazzle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejak Posted November 20, 2010 Report Share Posted November 20, 2010 They got to 4♦. West has ♠KQJT: I think it not unreasonable that he would correct to 4♠ without North's antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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