Furlan Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 A real one that happened yesterday: try to figure out responder's hand given the auction and corresponding explanations. Assume serious bidding (if it's possible) and no system misunderstandings.Scoring is IMPs, all white. 1NT1 - 2♣22♦3 - 3♣43♦5 - Pass 1 : 15-172 : Stayman3 : no major4 : shape ask (opener can show: 5-card minor; 4♣333; 4♦333; 4-4 minors). A similar asking bid would also be available over 2♥/♠.5 : one 5-card minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I can't understand why don't we play 2♦, We don't ahve any aditional info this round that we didn't have previous round, still 2-3 on each major and 2-5 in each minor. Only new info is no 4 card minor but this is not relevant to any shape I can think about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I can't understand why don't we play 2♦, We don't ahve any aditional info this round that we didn't have previous round, still 2-3 on each major and 2-5 in each minor. Only new info is no 4 card minor but this is not relevant to any shape I can think about.Partner has a 4450 with enough values that he wants to play game opposite 4 card ♦ support but not otherwise, but is guessing the 1N opener has 5 ♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poky Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 A real one that happened yesterday: try to figure out responder's hand given the auction and corresponding explanations. Assume serious bidding (if it's possible) and no system misunderstandings.Scoring is IMPs, all white. 1NT1 - 2♣22♦3 - 3♣43♦5 - Pass 1 : 15-172 : Stayman3 : no major4 : shape ask (opener can show: 5-card minor; 4♣333; 4♦333; 4-4 minors). A similar asking bid would also be available over 2♥/♠.5 : one 5-card minor Partner has (41)35 (Axxx-x in majors), lets say: x-Axxx-xxx-AJxxx, and wanted to play game (3NT/5♣) if opener has the 3244 shape. However, without the superfit, he sign-offs in what he hopes to be a 5-3 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 The trouble with these 2 explanations (4450 or (41)35) is that Responder is stuck when Opener shows 3334/3343 which presumably is a higher call. On another note I suspect it would be better/simpler to play 3D as 4 diamonds, 3M as 5 cards in the corresponding minor, and 3NT as 3334. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_20686 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 I would imagine responder is void in a major, and has values for 3N, but doesnt want to play there with a known 3-0 weakness. 4-0-6-3. However, that assumes that you could not bid 3d over 2d to show 4M-5m GF. It might be more likely he is (40)(36) and therefore is just guessing that partner does not have 5 clubs - clearly he did not have 3c available for this hand. Still think that a misunderstanding is most likely explanation. In practice cannot imagine these hands not driving game...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furlan Posted November 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 As I said, there was no misunderstanding.Responder could bid 3D to show 4M-5m GF, with 3H by opener asking for the minor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 4450 seems the most likely to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWO4BRIDGE Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Is this sequence part of this system or just some sort of "extended Stayman" ??( hand from my files...Aug, 2006....) [hv=pc=n&w=skq84ha53da5ca874&e=sa9hkq72d7cjt9653]266|100[/hv] 1NT - 2C2S - 3D! (no M fit; 4H/5+minor )3H! ( asks for minor) - 3S! ( Clubs; 3NT! would be Diam )??..3NT = not interested in Cl..4C! = Minorwood( agrees Cl ) After:4C! - 4H! = 2nd step, 1/4 4S! ( next step = cQ-ask) - ??4NT! = cQ or extra length 5C! = no cQ 5D! = cQ and dK 5H! = cQ and hK 5S! = cQ and sK After 5H!Opener bids:6C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Marginal hand with 4♥ + 6-7♦? Wants to try 4♥ opposite a fit and 5♦ opposite diamond support. When partner replies 3♦ he is likely to have 5♣ so we take the low road... ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 It would seem with a "marginal" 6-4 we gf hand. This is imps we are here to bid games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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