Is this "normal"

[the_dude]

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NV vs NV

 

My partner argues that it is "normal" in the advanced/expert class world to open this hand 1NT. I think he's on another planet .. if you want to mastermind a bit fine, but it is by no means "normal".

 

IMO this particular hand doesn't present alot of rebid problems .. but that aside .. what are your thoughts on opening 1NT with a singleton K in 1st position?

[mike gill]

No, this is not normal. Save it for when

 

1) You have a rebid problem

2) You don't have two 4-card majors in which to miss a fit

3) You really need a swing

4) You have a 3-card major (another way to win since partner can xfer)

5) You just feel like screwing with the opponents cuz you don't like them

[mfa1010]

It is normal that "normal" bids are defended as being normal. This 1NT is an experiment.

[hrothgar]

I think its a pretty reasonable 1NT opening.

 

1NT lets me open with a preemptive bid, decreasing the chance of competition

I can use a single bid to precisely clarify strength and (approximate) my shape.

 

If I open 1NT, I'll be happy if partner bid Stayman and overjoyed if he transfers to a major.

 

The only auction where I'll feel at all queasy is

 

1N - 2N (transfer to Diamonds)

3C - 3♦

 

Which positions a level higher than

 

1♣ - 1♦

1♥ - 2♦

 

Balanced against this, the super accept might let use find a cheap game

[Free]

I agree with Richard. It's reasonable, but that doesn't make it normal.

[pooltuna]

No, this is not normal. Save it for when

 

1) You have a rebid problem

2) You don't have two 4-card majors in which to miss a fit

3) You really need a swing

4) You have a 3-card major (another way to win since partner can xfer)

5) You just feel like screwing with the opponents cuz you don't like them

 

 

AMEN

[mike gill]

I would not feel all that happy if it went all pass (partner could have Txxx Qx xxx AJxx), or even if partner transferred and I superaccepted (unless he's supposed to raise my superaccept to game on Txxxx Ax xxxx Jx).

[gwnn]

it's okay but it's not mandatory or normal. I wouldn't like to open 1C and hear partner bid 1M because I wouldn't know how high to raise him. I have a stiff K and no aces.

[MrAce]

It depends on how we define the word "normal". If it is defined for something that majority of experts will do, then it is not normal.

 

I would open that hand 1 NT though.

[bid_em_up]

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NV vs NV

 

My partner argues that it is "normal" in the advanced/expert class world to open this hand 1NT. I think he's on another planet .. if you want to mastermind a bit fine, but it is by no means "normal".

 

IMO this particular hand doesn't present alot of rebid problems .. but that aside .. what are your thoughts on opening 1NT with a singleton K in 1st position?

 

Change the hand to:

 

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and your partner may be right. As it is, there is nothing to be gained from opening 1N on the hand in question and much to be lost.

[mikeh]

I echo those who say this is not normal. I disagree with the reationale (for 1N) that we won't know how high to raise a major response...I'd have no trouble bidding 3major...given that we have all the Kings, partner will almost always have a decent play for game with any hand on which he chooses to raise...or to venture toward slam.

 

I'd have more sympathy for 1N if the hand were a tad lighter or if we were 1=4=4=4....indeed, with K KQJx K10xx KQxx, I think that 1NT would be widely viewed as reasonable bordering on and for many becoming 'normal'.

[han]

Yup, agree with all that mikeh said.

[Phil]

No, this is not normal. Save it for when

 

1) You have a rebid problem

2) You don't have two 4-card majors in which to miss a fit

3) You really need a swing

4) You have a 3-card major (another way to win since partner can xfer)

5) You just feel like screwing with the opponents cuz you don't like them

 

Echo this and I would add:

 

6) Partner will frequently 3N on 4M333. This is very bad for us.

7) Partner will 3N on a lot of hands with clubs where 5♣ is better than 3N.

8) Partner will trap pass a 2♦ overcall with HTxx of ♦. This is bad for us too.

9) If we open 1N we have zero chance to get to a 4-3 major fit which looks pretty good with this texture.

[han]

I think that Phil's additions are only on the edge of badnessness. Not the things I would worry about.

[mtvesuvius]

I would open 1N if 1444 probably, however I'd open this 1♣ for sure... Agree with Phil and Mike.

[gwnn]

Fine now I'm with 3M over 1M. hm feeling kind of malleable lately.

[han]

Best to say fewer incorrect things to start with Csaba, then you don't have to give in later.

[kayin801]

1♣, this is a normal 1NT in the "BBO expert" world where your sole objective is to play every single hand.

[gnasher]

8) Partner will trap pass a 2♦ overcall with HTxx of ♦. This is bad for us too.

Why is that bad? Partner passes, I make a takeout double, and they go loads down.

[luke warm]

as much as this pains me, i agree with richard this (one) time ;)

[dake50]

Normal I don't know -- ask my partners.

1NT always here. I want 1NT above BOTH majors

because I want 3NT not 4M on 4-4.

I want to shut out our 3M partial.

The 1NT on single K deviation may make sense when SK.

May surprise a S-stop.

Have minors so 3NT likely best.

Seldom if HK as 1C then 1S over 1H or 1D

puts partner well placed to decide.

No rebid problem.

Phil nailed this one.

All kinds of auctions are 'ab-normal'

if I start singleton in 1NT.

[mgoetze]

1NT always here. I want 1NT above BOTH majors

because I want 3NT not 4M on 4-4.

I want to shut out our 3M partial.

 

Yes, but what is the relationship between your desires and "Advanced and Expert-Class Bridge"? And why are you so keen on opps taking 5 top diamonds against your 3NT when 4M was making?

[Finch]

I think dake50 was being sarcastic, although it's slightly hard to tell.

[Finch]

No, it's not normal to open 1NT on this hand.

 

I admit that in my usual system 4=4=1=4 with a singleton diamond is the worst shape to have and I am allowed to open this hand 1NT. But I still wouldn't do it at imps.

[MrAce]

Yes, but what is the relationship between your desires and "Advanced and Expert-Class Bridge"? And why are you so keen on opps taking 5 top diamonds against your 3NT when 4M was making?

 

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