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[awm]

It may be worth a comment that an awful lot of these auctions would be the same if west held ♦AQxxx. In this case a grand slam is quite poor. You will need diamonds 3-2, and the grand is not cold even then (note for example the comments about a spade lead).

[dellache]

West dealer :

1♦ 1♥ (4+♦, unbal (10)11-21 / Nat 4+♥, or ® 11+)

2♣ 2♠ (11-15, 4+♣, includes xx45 / GF®)

3♣ 3♦ (xx54 / ®)

3♥ 4♣ (2254 / ® setting diamonds)

5♣ ... (max hand, 2 Keys, ♦Q, ♣K / ...)

 

West has clearly xx xx AQxxx AKxx, and may have any Jack (not Q♣, he would upgrade (bid 1♠ ART over 1♥) and not bid 2♣).

Now 7♦ is wrong sided, and we would bid it when we need some action (KO match, trailing) : it is OK on a non ♠ lead (needs 3-2 Diamonds but not much more !) and bad otherwise. At MP we can right-side the contract in 6NT and we bid that happily. AT Imps, we would usually end the bidding at 6♦.

 

East dealer : We just bid it yesterday with my pard (he was relaying, I knew the hand)

1♥ 2♣ (5+♥, 10-21(22) / GFR)

2♥ 2♠ (4+♠ / ®)

2NT 3♣ ((15) 16-21 / ®)

3♦ 3♥ (45xx 15-19 / ®)

4♣ 4♦ (4531 15-18 / ® set ♥ !)

4♠ 4NT (3 Keys, 17-18 / ®)

5♥ 7♦ (♥Q ♦K / Right sided, luckily)

 

This is a rare bad case for our relays, since only the 4531 15+ finishes description above 3NT. We don't use an end signal, and the possibilities over 4♣ are to set Hearts (4♦), Spades (4NT), or Diamonds (5♣). The strategy is often to set a fake economic trumps suit (and change it afterwards) in those cases, after checking that we can control the scan (which is 98% the case).

 

Here 7♦ by the describing hand is a good proposal as (1) East will usually have HJ or SQ to qualify for the 17-18 range (2) ♠lead is UNLIKELY, and (3) a small slam is at least bid at the other tables.

[WGF_Flame]

looks like 7D will be an average as everyone here easily bid it :)

 

now seriously, we would have bid something like this:

1d-1h

2c-3d GF

4c-4nt

5s-5nt

6c-....

I don't think i would have bid 7D here,at mp I'd probably bid 6NT.

[Fluffy]

It may be worth a comment that an awful lot of these auctions would be the same if west held ♦AQxxx. In this case a grand slam is quite poor. You will need diamonds 3-2, and the grand is not cold even then (note for example the comments about a spade lead).

 

You are right, I noticed the spade lead on my first bidding were west is dealer, but I had rightsided it by mere luck so it was ok, on the second one I didn't bother to look who was playing, but it is the wrong player now. Still there is room for extras, so ♥J could just be there, and if not, opponents will know declarer's shape, but nothing about dummy.

 

I don't think worrying about ♦J is worth it, partner might have t, or it will normallyt fall. I have a tool for asking it but consumes a lot of spade, and then asking for ♣K might be too high.