straube Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Read through Lawrence's book on balancing which recommends cue-bidding with a very offensive (likely single-suited) hand. The cue bid is almost GF. E.g. 1C P P 2C is not majors but perhaps a very strong spade hand. In his structure, dbl and bid a suit might show a hand with more defense or strains and a jump overcall would show a good offensive hand (but not as good as the cue bid) So I'm wondering, is this still a pretty common treatment or do most people use cue bids for Michaels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgoetze Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 1. I've never heard of this treatment. 2. I would be willing to consider it. 3. Undiscussed, I would assume Michaels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straube Posted November 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I'm starting to think his use of the cue bid is a holdover from the days when the cue bid showed a big hand. Seems like in the balancing (4th) seat we have already have more tools to show 1-suited hands than we do in direct seat. We can jump overcall with an intermediate hand for instance....as well as make a simple overcall and double. So why give yet one more additional tool for these sorts of hands...and at the expense of being able to show 2-suited hands? I always thought of Lawrence as the authority on Balancing. Are their other books out there on the subject? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 This book was written thirty years ago, so it's no surprise that it's out of date. Even Stayman has changed enormously since 1980. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 My partner and I have the meta-agreement never to start with a double, when we have a single-suited strong hand. We solve this in various ways in various places. In fourth hand we include these hands in Michaels. I woulnd't expect a pick-up expert partner to be in on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 Read through Lawrence's book on balancing which recommends cue-bidding with a very offensive (likely single-suited) hand. The cue bid is almost GF. E.g. 1C P P 2C is not majors but perhaps a very strong spade hand. In his structure, dbl and bid a suit might show a hand with more defense or strains and a jump overcall would show a good offensive hand (but not as good as the cue bid) So I'm wondering, is this still a pretty common treatment or do most people use cue bids for Michaels? We've discussed this elsewhere. No one plays this that I am aware of, and he doesn't discuss follow-ups. Don't play it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 As Phil, be clear on follow-ups. What Mich-Q would rebid? Few! Rest are Q-bid strong.What Unu-2NT rebids? Rest are Q-bid strong. Theorists have defined these auctions for nigh these 30 years as ML suggested.They are rare -- so unheard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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