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Poky

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agree with OleBerg. Penalty looks weird. It looks like the decision is between penalty of clubs and takeout of clubs and obviously takeout of clubs is more likely and more important to show. Maybe we have Axxx Axxx in the majors and partner has a 5 or 6 carder in one of them, it's better to just play in our major than to venture a guess on trick 1. Of course all these scenarios are rather unlikely, but I feel the takeout interpretation is less unlikely.

 

All that said, with most pickup partners I would never take it as t/o of clubs and I would never make the call.

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Hi,

 

#1 X is not a lead director, p i on lead

#2 since p is a passed hand, and I passed as well, p cant know, that 3NT was a joke / psych,

so he cant know, that they try to steal, hence he cant be sure, the hand belongs

us, so X is not a reopening move.

#3 X could either be penalty or T/O, and my guess is penalty, although I will be hard pressed

to come up with an nonopening hand, that believes, it can beat 3NT, a running suit, but

why did he not open with a preempt? A 5 carder, say AKQ??

 

And I will pass.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

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Sure.

Because if you don't beat 3NT - you let them score the game, and if you are beating 3NT, you dobule to push them to 4.

You left out - we scared them enough, so that they run to 4C, 4C= is less, than 3NT=, and even if 3NT goes down -1

and 4C makes, that is still <= 200, a small price.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

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If made by an unpassed hand I'd assume this was takeout of clubs even without agreement.

 

Can a passed hand really have a three-suited takeout double here? If I were forming an agreement about this sequence, I think I'd suggest some specific two-suiter.

 

How about 6(+) diamonds and 4 hearts? (With 6(+) diamonds and four spades, you could open more hands at the 1-level.)

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We don't double the opponents in 3N only to let them run to 4, unless we are into mind games. So partner needs a hand that has a source of tricks and is loaded in clubs. KQJTx x xx QJTxx would fill the bill.

 

If they run to 4, que sera sera, but partner might be able to stomp on that too.

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We don't double the opponents in 3N only to let them run to 4, unless we are into mind games. So partner needs a hand that has a source of tricks and is loaded in clubs. KQJTx x xx QJTxx would fill the bill.

 

If they run to 4, que sera sera, but partner might be able to stomp on that too.

That runs the risk that the 3NT bid without clubs ie. something like

Axx Ax AKQJxxx x

 

More likely its 6/4 in the majors or 5/5

AQxxx

Kxxxx

xx

x

Sure they might have the killer of 3NT but the lead is a pain but more likely partner will need to finesse through the 3NT hand.

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