jillybean Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 What contract are you trying to reach jilly? One of my "disasterous 3NT's" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 2♠. I think pass is pretty terrible. We might have a spade game or we might have a better spot in either diamonds, spades or even clubs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 2♠. I think pass is pretty terrible. We might have a spade game or we might have a better spot in either diamonds, spades or even clubs. :D Phil..do me a favour and try to reply to topics b4 the actual hand is released :P And how many times in ur life time , u actually played in a third suit, after pd opened weak 2 in a suit and u responded with a new suit of your own ? :D Next time i post a question, i will not release the original hand untill u reply :P (i am kidding mate :) ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Bid 2♠ and be glad you don't play multi! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I open 1♥ with the actual hand but I realise that I am probably in a minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I open 1♥ with the actual hand but I realise that I am probably in a minority. Minority or not, u are not alone :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I open 1♥ with the actual hand but I realise that I am probably in a minority.Certainly playing limited openings I would, and I think there is a strong case for opening 1♥ in standard as well. Good spots, Jxx♠, easy rebid. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszeszycki Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 bid 2s IMPS is a risk vs reward game and the reward of a spade game is far too great a prize to arbitrarily pass due solely to pessimism. Our hand is good enough to give the 2h bidder a fair chance of making 3h if they have a great suit. That fact alone mitigates a lot of the risk associated with a 2s bid. That means 2s is almost all potential reward with a fairly small amount of risk. Ideal circumstances for a game try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 I'm not sure I've ever picked up a hand over partner's weak 2H where I wanted 2S to be forcing. I've picked up quite a few where I was glad it was NF. Over a weak 2D it's closer, there you might well want to bid 2M forcing when you have diamond support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I'm not sure I've ever picked up a hand over partner's weak 2H where I wanted 2S to be forcing. I've picked up quite a few where I was glad it was NF. Over a weak 2D it's closer, there you might well want to bid 2M forcing when you have diamond support. It's a matter of style. For example, change-of-suit forcing makes handling two suiters easier e.g.♠KJxxxx ♥- ♦AQJxx ♣Kx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfa1010 Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 It's a matter of style. For example, change-of-suit forcing makes handling two suiters easier e.g.♠KJxxxx ♥- ♦AQJxx ♣KxI would not have problem with bidding a nonforcing 2♠ with that. Opposite mostly hearts, there are still many losers. Nonforcing doesn't mean that partner must pass. He can raise with fit and we have shown a 6-card suit. He should raise pretty much always with three and bid again some of the time with two, when he has decent values outside hearts. Opposite a singleton spade, 2♠ seems like the place to be. 3♦ could be marginally better, but it is not so relevant if 2♠ then 3♦ would be forcing anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 I also play 2S NF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 17, 2010 Report Share Posted November 17, 2010 :D Phil..do me a favour and try to reply to topics b4 the actual hand is released :P And how many times in ur life time , u actually played in a third suit, after pd opened weak 2 in a suit and u responded with a new suit of your own ? :D Next time i post a question, i will not release the original hand untill u reply :P (i am kidding mate :) ) Heh TE it really doesn't matter. Sometimes I get them right and most of the time I don't. FTR I post plenty of answers after the fact that are wrong. We aren't here to look like genii, we are all trying to learn something :P However a few days later I have read nothing that shows me that 2♠ is incorrect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted November 18, 2010 Report Share Posted November 18, 2010 Heh TE it really doesn't matter. Sometimes I get them right and most of the time I don't. FTR I post plenty of answers after the fact that are wrong. We aren't here to look like genii, we are all trying to learn something :P However a few days later I have read nothing that shows me that 2♠ is incorrect. 2♠ is not incorrect. I just prefered pass thinking that my pd preempts like i do :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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