jsrmath Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I play SAYC with some other 2/1 conventions and I was wondering which conventions I need to specify on my profile besides writing "SAYC". Along with basic SAYC stuff, I play all of these: MichaelsUnusual 2NTGerber over NTGrand slam forceSplinters4-suit transfersTexas transfersGambling 3NTNegative DoublesSOS RedoublesDOPI So, which are necessary to specify in my profile, and which go without saying when I write "SAYC"? Thanks,Julian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbradley62 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 To see the BBO SAYC convention card, go to:My BBOConvention Cardsunder Stock Convention Cards: SAYC - Standard American Yellow Card (near the bottom)click on Show and you'll see the whole card. Included: Michaels, Unusual 2NT, Gerber over NT, Grand slam force, 4-suit xfers, Texas xfers, Neg Dbl, DOPI Not Included: Splinters (this surprises me), Gambling 3NT, SOS Redoubles However, you're making a huge assumption that other people know what is (and what is not) included in SAYC. You might want to say something like:SAYC (includes 4way & Texas xfers, GSF). Also play splinter, Gambling, SOS** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Also Jacoby 2NT (gameforcing raise of major) is part of SAYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrmath Posted November 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 Thanks. I find myself having to alert a lot of things anyway since you can never tell what other people play, especially when their profiles are blank which really annoys me. I think I'll go with something similar to what you said. And @Peachy, I do play Jacoby 2NT, I just forgot to write it. Thanks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 To see the BBO SAYC convention card, go to:My BBOConvention Cardsunder Stock Convention Cards: SAYC - Standard American Yellow Card (near the bottom)click on Show and you'll see the whole card. Included: Michaels, Unusual 2NT, Gerber over NT, Grand slam force, 4-suit xfers, Texas xfers, Neg Dbl, DOPI Not Included: Splinters (this surprises me), Gambling 3NT, SOS Redoubles However, you're making a huge assumption that other people know what is (and what is not) included in SAYC. You might want to say something like:SAYC (includes 4way & Texas xfers, GSF). Also play splinter, Gambling, SOS** SAYC does not include 4-suit transfers. 1NT 2♠ is weak with either minor 1NT 2NT is invitational Also I think SAYC has regular Blackwood not a RKCB variation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 yeah Cascade is right. But many people think that "sayc" just means 5-card majors and strong notrump. So it may be a good idea to put J2NT on your profile also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 Cascade is correct, on SAYC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrmath Posted November 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 OK, so I included all those, and with my remaining room, I just put some other stuff that maybe not everyone plays. My current profile is this: SAYC, Splinters, Gambling 3NT, 4-suit Xfers, Texas Xfers, SOS XX, Jacoby 2NT, GSF, DOPI, Neg X Sound good? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 14, 2010 Report Share Posted November 14, 2010 OK, so I included all those, and with my remaining room, I just put some other stuff that maybe not everyone plays. My current profile is this: SAYC, Splinters, Gambling 3NT, 4-suit Xfers, Texas Xfers, SOS XX, Jacoby 2NT, GSF, DOPI, Neg X Sound good? Yes, nicely done! You might take the Neg X away, it is played by everybody regardless of their system. From your footnote I notice you are 14 years old. Please be sure to check the BBO Juniors activities. They have a webpage and weekly Junior tourneys (no charge, partner provided if you don't have one) with expert analyses afterward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das3sc Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 RE: Neg X "played by everybody regardless of system." I don't remember this in Goren or Kaplan-Sheinwold, but my memory is poor. Is Neg X part of Precision, SEF, and Polish Club? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 "Is Neg X part of Precision, SEF, and Polish Club"Certainly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 But many people think that "sayc" just means 5-card majors and strong notrump. So it may be a good idea to put J2NT on your profile also. Why do people put their preferred methods on their profile? Isn't it more convenient to provide a completed convention card, or use a stock one and stipulate "no changes"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Why do people put their preferred methods on their profile? Isn't it more convenient to provide a completed convention card, or use a stock one and stipulate "no changes"?It's a lot easier to decide between random partners by looking at their profile and few are aware what is actually in the stock cards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycroft Posted July 14, 2014 Report Share Posted July 14, 2014 negX - how high? remember, SAYC mandates "through 2♠" only... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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