l milne Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 JTxxxxxxxTxJx (1♣)-? IMPS, all vul. Yes, nine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 4S Just because you don't get to hold a 9 carder all that often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 With a totally topless suit, I settle for 3♠, but 4♠ may work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 VUL @ IMPs both opps and partner are likely to try to reach game. So I'll bid 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 3♠ just Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 IMPS, all vul. Yes, nine. JTxxxxxxx T x Jx(1♣)-? IMO 4♠ = 10, 3♠ = 8, _P = 6, 2♠ = 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi5 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 My first thought was 3♠, but I guess 4 could be the winning bid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 4♠ WTFP? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 4♠, I'll use the hog's reasoning if I have to explain it to someone. Although we rate to be going for a fairly large number, often the opponents will be forced to guess, and will guess wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I suspect 4S gets opponents to Key-ask and guess which suit.Good enough. Down 4? Nah! Well, maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyman Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 3.5♠ wtp? Blah, 4S and make em guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I have no idea what is right. However I feel that there is a major partnership issue if you bid 4♠ and your partnership has standards or expectations that this is rule of two (or whatever your standards might be). If partner takes any action after you bid 4♠ you can be fairly sure that she will be disappointed in your hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I think 4♠ is the right amount of risk/"make opps guess" level. 3♠ is a "bawk bawk" bid IMO as with ♠Ax and trash held by partner you are a favorite to make 3♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted November 13, 2010 Report Share Posted November 13, 2010 I think 4♠ is the right amount of risk/"make opps guess" level. 3♠ is a "bawk bawk" bid IMO as with ♠Ax and trash held by partner you are a favorite to make 3♠ Partner is a big underdog to have ♠ Ax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l milne Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 If partner takes any action after you bid 4♠ you can be fairly sure that she will be disappointed in your hand. You're not happy with (1♣)-4♠-(5♣)-X? I would be. Even if partner raises as a sacrifice, our 9 trumps mean we are probably going down less than she expects (assuming there is some spade support opposite when she raises). If partner is expected me to have a couple of defensive tricks for my preempt, agree about the partnership issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 You're not happy with (1♣)-4♠-(5♣)-X? I would be. Even if partner raises as a sacrifice, our 9 trumps mean we are probably going down less than she expects (assuming there is some spade support opposite when she raises). If partner is expected me to have a couple of defensive tricks for my preempt, agree about the partnership issue. If partner doubles with a ♠ shortage, she may be disappointed that opponents have no ♠ loser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 4♠ WTFP?Agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 5♠ wtp? Blah, 4S and make em guess. FYP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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