Climate change

[Al_U_Card]

https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scientific-papers-that-deny-climate-change-are-all-flawed/?mc_cid=d0ee4180ee&mc_eid=bc8fc9890e

The 97% "consensus" has been debunked so many times as to make it more of a virtue-signaling device among the devoted to alarmism rather than the science behind the phenomenon.

[Cyberyeti]

The 97% "consensus" has been debunked so many times as to make it more of a virtue-signaling device among the devoted to alarmism rather than the science behind the phenomenon.

 

Yes, but there are virtually no credible studies in support of the alternative hypothesis, and almost all are done/funded by people with a vested interest in getting that result.

[Al_U_Card]

Yes, but there are virtually no credible studies in support of the alternative hypothesis, and almost all are done/funded by people with a vested interest in getting that result.

The reason being that real science relies on replication and confirmation rather than the articles of faith generally presented by alarmists (hurricanes getting more frequent and stronger being a prime example).

Politics relies on consensus and religion relies on faith. EVERY study that flies in the face of carastrophy is sufficient to refute the CAGW meme. Even the IPCC's scientific portion contains "denial". It is only the SPM (a consensual and political document) that is the cry of wolf by the delinquent teen-age shepherd...

[onoway]

Solar power is not the future. It has major issues. To produce solar panels,which have limited lifetime, it requires rare metals which are limited. Not to mention heavy metals which are poisonous. In Germany we had a huge boom in solar panels. There is going to be a riot when the owners find out their precious solar panels are special garbage that require a special treatment to dispose them. Then there is the problem of efficiency. Solar power is not available when we neef iT. How we turn the light on when it is dark? Using solar panels? So we store electricity. Major problem. Batteries with so much storage don't exist and never will. No elements exist with a higher electronegativity than what we already use.

 

There is this: https://phys.org/news/2016-11-diamond-age-power-nuclear-batteries.html Since these apparently are only able to do small power jobs alone, why not do as Musk has supposedly done for the home battery systems he is selling and put dozens of them to work together? (only in his case they are supposedly tiny lithium ion batteries). I am always a bit wary of anyone who uses absolutes in terms of having reached the limits of pretty much anything, that's been the barrier to increasing knowledge throughout man's history. Not only because nobody then bothers to look, but that because since science has already proven we know everything we need to know about xyz, anything anyone suggests differently is automatically discounted.

 

These days especially, when so many "scientists" are turning out to be corporate whores and the scientific community is doing nothing about cleaning up their house, so increasingly "science" is falling into disrepute.

[PassedOut]

It's not just the Guardian now. The New York Times has started working to educate folks in the US about climate change: Climate Change Is Complex. We’ve Got Answers to Your Questions.

 

What is the greenhouse effect, and how does it cause global warming?

 

We’ve known about it for more than a century. Really.

 

In the 19th century, scientists discovered that certain gases in the air trap and slow down heat that would otherwise escape to space. Carbon dioxide is a major player; without any of it in the air, the Earth would be a frozen wasteland. The first prediction that the planet would warm as humans released more of the gas was made in 1896. The gas has increased 43 percent above the pre-industrial level so far, and the Earth has warmed by roughly the amount that scientists predicted it would.

So heat-trapping gasses trap heat! Makes sense, when you think about it.

B-)

[Al_U_Card]

It's not just the Guardian now. The New York Times has started working to educate folks in the US about climate change: Climate Change Is Complex. We’ve Got Answers to Your Questions.

 

 

So heat-trapping gasses trap heat! Makes sense, when you think about it.

B-)

"Carbon dioxide is a major player; without any of it in the air, the Earth would be a frozen wasteland."

 

Oh dear. Water vapor anyone? Adiabatic lapse rate? Snowball earth? etc. etc. Lions and tigers and bears!

 

p.s. but we can only "control" (read tax) CO2 so why not make the best of it...

[Al_U_Card]

Well, darn those climate scientists that insist on reporting good news (not from an alarmist standpoint at least...). The earth is greening apace and it appears to be mostly thanks to good old CO2. Wasn't it nice of Mother Nature to sequester away all that lovely energy in a form that we could make use of AND replenish the earth? Won't our grandchildren thank us for the abundant energy and increased food supplies that we have provided for them?

 

LETTERSPUBLISHED ONLINE: 25 APRIL 2016 | DOI: 10.1038/NCLIMATE3004Greening of the Earth and its driversZaichun Zhu1,2, Shilong Piao1,2*, Ranga B. Myneni3, Mengtian Huang2, Zhenzhong Zeng2,Josep G. Canadell4, Philippe Ciais2,5, Stephen Sitch6, Pierre Friedlingstein7, Almut Arneth8,Chunxiang Cao9, Lei Cheng10, Etsushi Kato11, Charles Koven12, Yue Li2, Xu Lian2, Yongwen Liu2,Ronggao Liu13, Jiafu Mao14, Yaozhong Pan15, Shushi Peng2, Josep Peñuelas16,17, Benjamin Poulter18,Thomas A. M. Pugh8,19, Benjamin D. Stocker20,21, Nicolas Viovy5, Xuhui Wang2, Yingping Wang22,Zhiqiang Xiao23, Hui Yang2, Sönke Zaehle24 and Ning Zeng25Global environmental change is rapidly altering the dynamics of terrestrial vegetation, with consequences for the functioning of the Earth system and provision of ecosystem services1,2.Yet how global vegetation is responding to the changing environment is not well established. Here we use three long-term satellite leaf area index (LAI) records and ten global ecosystem models to investigate four key drivers of LAI trends during 1982–2009. We show a persistent and widespread increase of growing season integrated LAI (greening) over25% to 50% of the global vegetated area, whereas less than 4% of the globe shows decreasing LAI (browning).Factorial simulations with multiple global ecosystem models suggest that CO2 fertilization effects explain 70% of the observed greening trend, followed by nitrogen deposition(9%), climate change (8%) and land cover change (LCC) (4%).CO2 fertilization effects explain most of the greening trends in the tropics, whereas climate change resulted in greening of the high latitudes and the Tibetan Plateau. LCC contributed most to the regional greening observed in southeast China and the eastern United States. The regional effects of unexplained factors suggest that the next generation of ecosystem models will need to explore the impacts of forest demography, differences in regional management intensities for cropland and pastures, and other emerging productivity constraints such as phosphorus availability.

 

See it for yourself . Green is good

[Al_U_Card]

Back in 2004, the properly sited, triply redundant, no-need-for-adjustment USCRN (U.S. Climate Reference Network) was established by the good folk at NOAA to verify the actual temperatures in the continental US. Despite a couple of El Nino cycles, the last 14 years have been....well..steady... The only real surprise is how we all survived the +7 F (+4C) average temperatures of 2006 AND 2012. :lol:

 

[Al_U_Card]

Is it doomsday yet? It's freaking cold here and I am getting tired of waiting around for that global warming to finally show up... :angry:;)

[hrothgar]

Is it doomsday yet? It's freaking cold here and I am getting tired of waiting around for that global warming to finally show up... :angry:;)

 

How cute

 

Al is now senile enough that he has forgotten that winter exists

[Winstonm]

How cute

 

Al is now senile enough that he has forgotten that winter exists

 

Fox News, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the small-government horde utilize the tactic of keeping the ignorant ignorant by re-enforcing the use of intuition and feelings as a reasonable method to determine reality. Although it sounds simplistic to discount climate change with local weather, the truth is that it is an effective means to keep a lot of people ignorant. The real issue to me is how to successfully counter this tactic.

[hrothgar]

Fox News, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the small-government horde utilize the tactic of keeping the ignorant ignorant by re-enforcing the use of intuition and feelings as a reasonable method to determine reality. Although it sounds simplistic to discount climate change with local weather, the truth is that it is an effective means to keep a lot of people ignorant. The real issue to me is how to successfully counter this tactic.

 

I vote for shooting Al...

[hrothgar]

Fox News, Alex Jones, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of the small-government horde utilize the tactic of keeping the ignorant ignorant by re-enforcing the use of intuition and feelings as a reasonable method to determine reality. Although it sounds simplistic to discount climate change with local weather, the truth is that it is an effective means to keep a lot of people ignorant. The real issue to me is how to successfully counter this tactic.

 

I vote for shooting Al...

[Zelandakh]

I vote for shooting Al...

S--sh--s--s--sh--s--s--s--shooting's too good for 'im, sir.

[hrothgar]

S--sh--s--s--sh--s--s--s--shooting's too good for 'im, sir.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHgMsvpFm08

 

(Watch it through, its actually relevant)

[PassedOut]

In 2017, the oceans were by far the hottest ever recorded

 

The authors went a bit further and investigated how the heat was input into the oceans by region. They found that in 2017, a lot of heat was deposited in the Atlantic and Southern Oceans. The authors also calculated that all this heat resulted in approximately 2 mm rise in sea level (as water warms, it expands and so that ocean levels rise).

 

Further consequences of this heating include declining oxygen levels in the oceans, bleaching of coral reefs, and melting of both sea ice and ice shelves (the latter of which which will also raise sea levels). We are observing these effects. Arctic ice is undergoing a long-term decline, and it’s possible the Arctic will become ice-free. Massive coral bleaching events have been recorded, particularly in the waters off of Australia. The point is, the effects of global warming aren’t just academic; they are real.

 

The consequences of this year-after-year-after-year warming have real impacts on humans. Fortunately, we know why the oceans are warming (because of human greenhouse gases), and we can do something about it. We can take action to reduce the heating of our planet by using energy more wisely and increasing the use of clean and renewable energy (like wind and solar power).

Too bad that Trump has taken action to put installers of solar panels in the US out of work.

:(

[Al_U_Card]

In 2017, the oceans were by far the hottest ever recorded

 

 

Too bad that Trump has taken action to put installers of solar panels in the US out of work.

:(

Are they recognizing that the ENSO (naturally variable climate phenomenon) is responsible for the latest rises in global temps? (1998 and 2016 el ninos because in between, global temps flatlined) When the PDO flips back to la ninas (like the '50s and '60s) will they also do the same? CO2 is so powerful, one molecule more per thousand after all...

[Al_U_Card]

"If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back." (Carl Sagan)

[Al_U_Card]

Regarding the history for the range of values for the CO2 doubling GMT, Kerr has reported an interesting story (Kerr, 2004): “On the first day of deliberations, Manabe told the committee that his model warmed 2°C when CO2 was doubled. The next day Hansen said his model had recently gotten 4°C for a doubling. According to Manabe, Charney chose 0.5°C as a not-unreasonable margin of error, subtracted it from Manabe’s number, and added it to Hansen’s. Thus was born the 1.5°C-to-4.5°C range of likely climate sensitivity that has appeared in every greenhouse assessment since, including the three by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC). More than one researcher at the workshop called Charney’s now-enshrined range and its attached best estimate of 3°C so much hand waving.”

 

Scam-boozle maybe?

[Al_U_Card]

Same old, same old.

 

Adjusted temperatures scream: "Hottest year evah!" while models continue to be used to "prove" inevitable doom from CO2 increases.

 

Actual observations show: Sea level increasing at the same rate since measurements began. Global temperatures are stagnant and are mostly dependant on ENSO variations in the Pacific ocean. No increases in storm frequency or ferocity over the last 50 years. Those "sinking atolls" (Tuvalu etc.) now have MORE real-estate than back in the 1970's and the list goes on and on.

 

Reality puts the lie to CAGW alarmism.

[Al_U_Card]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article203842084.html

 

Should prove interesting, especially the litigants saying the opposite conclusions in their bond offerings etc.

[Al_U_Card]

Some perspective on current hottest ever temperatures...

 

https://co2islife.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/20k.jpg

[Gilithin]

Rebuttal

[Al_U_Card]

Rebuttal

Skepticalscience website. Refer to all other sources of data such as Antarctic ice cores and borehole data. The original IPCC graph on the FAR was generally accurate and prepared under the tutelage of Hubert Lamb, head of the CRU before his successors (Wigley and Jones) adopted the alarmist doctrine and started to adapt data to their needs.

[Al_U_Card]

Well, the judge in that case against Exxon et al has dismissed the "conspiracy" part of the action.

Can't imagine that much will come from all this but there is nary a word about it on CNN or even FOX.

I expect the judge will be vilified and pilloried by the consensus crowd....

Perhaps Mann's case against Steyn et al will eventualĺy be dropped also.