microcap Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 First hand in a team match, you are Red versus white and hold:[hv=pc=n&n=s865h86dqjt8542c4]133|100[/hv] Are you preempting or passing? If preempting, at what level? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 2♦ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Pass.When I preempt 2♦ in first or second seat partner could very well have a strong hand and start bidding.He will be very disappointed with my dummy. In third hand I would preempt 3♦, now partner can no langer harm us and they certainly have the power to make game, maybe more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WGF_Flame Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 pass as first hand, but unlike what was posted before me, just as easy pass as third hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 It is close, but, if I can, I will bid 2D. I will apolologice, if it backfires. At equal vul. - 2D is clear cut, at green vs. red 3D. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 First hand in a team match, you are Red versus white and hold:[hv=pc=n&n=s865h86dqjt8542c4]133|100|Are you preempting or passing? If preempting, at what level?[/hv] IMO _P = 10, 3♦ = 8, 2♦ = 7Just a matter of partnership agreement.You license pre-empts on a sliding scale e.g. 2nd seat, vul, at teams: 3 ♦ = 7 card suit, 2 top honours. 2♦ = Good 6 card suit, 2 top honours or 3 honours. 5-9 HCP.1st seat, vul, at teams: a bit less rigorous but not much.3rd seat, not vul, at pairs: Licence to Kill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Anyone opening this hand red vs white needs a 1 way ticket to the asylum 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I gave fluffy a point for his terse, and absolutely correct, post. Why do so many people think it is a crime to pass when holding a long suit, and a hand that doesn't come close to meeting partner's expectations for a preempt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted November 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Thank you , I love all of you guys. Rex's exact quote afterward was "Everyone would open this 3♦." As it wasn't even opened 3♦ in the other room, I suggested he should edit the word "everyone." Given the comments, perhaps he should have written "No one would open this 3♦." Except for Rex obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 Thank you , I love all of you guys. Rex's exact quote afterward was "Everyone would open this 3♦." As it wasn't even opened 3♦ in the other room, I suggested he should edit the word "everyone." Given the comments, perhaps he should have written "No one would open this 3♦." Except for Rex obviously. Tell us what happened, what was partner's hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted November 7, 2010 Report Share Posted November 7, 2010 I am a junior. I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 RHO bid 3♠ over 3♦. I held [hv=pc=n&s=sqt7hakqt65d5ck43&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=3d3s]133|200[/hv] What do you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nige1 Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 [hv=pc=n&s=sqt7hakqt65d5ck43&d=n&v=0&b=1&a=3d3s?]200|200| RHO bid 3♠ over 3♦. What do you do now?[/hv] IMO 3N = 10, _P = 8, _X = 6, 4♥ = 4, assuming that a first in hand vulnerable pre-empt shows a good suit, so partner is quite likely to have ♦A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotShot Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Since I know what crap I preempt with, this is a clear pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 pass with both hands I think... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 I don't like the pass with Jay's hand, either we have some heart fit and do it ok in 4 hearts, or we don't and 4♠ can go for a number, with all a guess I bid 4♥ so opponents can make last mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microcap Posted November 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Two things : I owe Rex an apology as I went over the top in my snarky comments. Second, I didn't like pass or 4♥, so I doubled thinking I had 4 tricks and while I didn't think Rex had the A♦, I felt he would get at least a ♦ trick opposite my singleton. I was hoping to catch him on a great day with xxx x KQJxxxx xx where he could dump his clubs on my hearts and we send them for 300 or 500. It was not to be of course as they had 9 tricks easily. I don't think 4♥ is a winning call, I would pass next time. As I always say, don't preempt when your partner has a good hand, preempt when he has a bad hand. I will leave it to your telepathic system to know when. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dicklont Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 As I always say, don't preempt when your partner has a good hand, preempt when he has a bad hand. I will leave it to your telepathic system to know when.The weaker your preempt is, the better your partners hand can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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