6-in-1

[wyman]

1st chair. What do you expect from partner in the following 6 auctions?

 

p-(p)-1d-(1h)

2c-(p)-p-(2h)

p-(p)-Y

 

where

Y = X?

Y = 2S?

Y = 2N?

 

p-(p)-1d-(1h)

2c-(2h)-Y

 

where

Y = X?

Y = 2S?

Y = 2N?

[Fluffy]

X= take out

2♠ = natural (reverse if bid directly)

2NT = natural or pick a minor if bid reopening

[Zelandakh]

Double for me is penalty after the pass of 2C. 2S is competitive (effectively this replaces a take-out double). 2NT is competitive to 3 of a minor with better diamonds.

[dake50]

I had a negX, did I not?

Did not select that.

X after pass: C:Hx want D:Hx to 3D.

X not passed: H-stuff -> try NT or penalties?

2S after pass: can we play S:4-3?

2S not passed: S-stops, do you stop hearts

2NT after pass: is one of the minors likely running?

2NT not passed: H-stops, can we 3NT?

[nige1]

This is not in a "Non-natural" or "SAYC 2/1" forum, so may we assume a natural system like Acol?

IMO, After...

_P (_P) 1♦ (1♥)

2♣ (_P) _P (2♥)

_P (_P) ??

• _X = ♥
• 2♠ = ♠
• 2N = ♦ with ♣ tolerance.

_P (_P) 1♦ (1♥)

2♣ (2♥) ??

• _X = T/O
• 2♠ = 5+ ♦ 4+ ♠ reversing values.
• 2N = Natural.

[wyman]

2/1

[Siegmund]

In the first one, we've already limited ourselves to weak hands without exciting distribution, and common sense takes over:

I don't honestly know whether X should be takeout or just values/inviting partner to leave it in. 2S weak and natural, 2N pick a minor.

 

In the second one, most partnerships will have actual agreements. Mine are X=support, 2S=reverse-like values with spades, 2NT=the bad half of good/bad, immediate 3C or 3D= the good half of good/bad. Yes, there are risks assuming support doubles apply over minors the same as they do over majors if you haven't discussed it.

 

I am sure some people agree 2NT is natural NF in the 2nd auction -- I expect that to be common in flight B and C, but a minority treatment in A (quite possibly behind both good/bad and natural strong.)

[wyman]

Let me be more specific:

 

What shape(s) are we expecting from opener (for X, 2S, 2N) in the case where opener is re-balancing?

[gnasher]

What shape(s) are we expecting from opener (for X, 2S, 2N) in the case where opener is re-balancing?

 

3442, 4252, xx53 or maybe xx52