straube Posted November 6, 2010 Report Share Posted November 6, 2010 I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?) 2D (3D) majors2D (4C) hearts and clubs2D (4D) spades and clubs2D (4N) blackwood 2H (4N) minors2H (4H) minors, bigger2H (3H) running minor, asks for stop2H (3S) invitational spades 3S (4S) hearts and a minor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?) 2D (3D) majors2D (4C) hearts and clubs2D (4D) spades and clubs2D (4N) blackwood 2H (4N) minors2H (4H) minors, bigger2H (3H) running minor, asks for stop2H (3S) invitational spades 3S (4S) hearts and a minorWhat about the rest of your defense to a 2♦ preempt i.e.Double = takeout of ♦2NT = Natural, balanced, HCP range according to partnership agreementNew suit = Natural (is this forcing or non-forcing according to partnership agreement?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I've played leaping Michaels for a long time, but I always wondered what the full thing was. Also how to defend against a weak 2D. Found this and inviting comments (like is this how most people play?) 2D (3D) majors2D (4C) hearts and clubs2D (4D) spades and clubs2D (4N) blackwood I looked up Michaels cuebid again. These guys say use Michaels with a weak hand (5-10 HCP) or a strong hand (16+ HCP). With an intermediate hand (11-15 HCP) bid the higher ranking suit first. I put these numbers through BBOs deal generator to get an idea of the frequency of occurrence. This is what was spat out:0.45% = 5-10 HCP0.33% = 11-15 HCP0.08% = 16+ HCP0.86% = Overall frequency of occurrence I don't like this suggestion of yours here. I prefer this - 2D (3D) majors (this is fine, no problem; use it for the weak Michaels hand i.e 5-10 HCP)2D (4C) hearts and clubs I prefer ♣ plus an unspecified major. To ask for the unspecified major, responder bids 4♦. The reason I choose this is because your next suggestion below forces the auction to 5♣ when partner has preference for ♣ but an otherwise bust hand. Following my suggestion allows partner to pass 4♣ with preference for ♣ and an otherwise bust hand, and to ask for the major with preference for the majors2D (4D) spades and clubs I prefer this to show the strong Michaels hand i.e. 16+ HCP2D (4N) blackwood [blackwood with no suit agreed upon? Can you please give some more detail as to what you have in mind here?] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 people in the expert forum don't bid michaels over weak 2s on 5 counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAce Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 people in the expert forum don't bid michaels over weak 2s on 5 counts. http://www.bridgebase.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I might be tempted to bid michaels on QJT987 QT98765 void void, but apart from that :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 2D (4C) hearts and clubs I prefer ♣ plus an unspecified major. To ask for the unspecified major, responder bids 4♦. The reason I choose this is because your next suggestion below forces the auction to 5♣ when partner has preference for ♣ but an otherwise bust hand. Following my suggestion allows partner to pass 4♣ with preference for ♣ and an otherwise bust hand, and to ask for the major with preference for the majorsThis can be extended further as follows - 1. With slam interest in either major, bid 4♦ to ask for the major2. With no slam interest, bid 4♥ as P/C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 This can be extended further as follows - 1. With slam interest in either major, bid 4♦ to ask for the major2. With no slam interest, bid 4♥ as P/C That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand? I'd sure like to play 4S when it's right. That's why people suggest having 2 bids to show clubs and a major. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I feel pretty strongly that over 2D you should have 2 bids for the majors. There is a big difference in a hand that wants to overcall and is 5-5 majors (3D), and a hand that actually wants to force it to game, and obviously both majors is an important hand type. In fact I even prefer to play 2H (3H) michaels and 2H (4m) leaping michaels but that is more controversial and few people agree with me on that :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand? He bids 4♠, also p/c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
32519 Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 That just doesn't work. What does the advancer bid with a poor 4144 hand? I'd sure like to play 4S when it's right. That's why people suggest having 2 bids to show clubs and a major.Ever notice you have a 9-card ♣ fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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