New Tourney Tool - Completion Rate Filter

[Rain]

When using the newest BBO version (ie, web one) to create your tourneys, you will now have an extra tool in your arsenal - the Minimum Completion Rate filter.

 

Select this filter if you want to include players who have completed at least xxx% of the tourneys they entered on BBO.

You get to write the xxx figure yourself.

 

So if you want only players who have completed 90% of the tourneys they have entered to play your tourney, you select this feature, and write 90% in the box next to this filter option. And then only these players can enter your tourneys.

 

This completion rate filter is not available in the old windows version. :)

[uday]

As you'd expect, there are fewer people who have a 100% completion rate than a 50% completion rate.

 

I'd suggest that TDs try something in the 75-85% range. And then, depending on time of day, tweak it at will based on experience.

 

The idea is that whitelisting players with good completion rates will lower the # of "runners", as we call them, and lead to a more pleasant experience for the TD as well as the players.

 

You'll get Qs about this number. Just send them to us. We compute this number nightly, looking at the last 30 days , for people with 10+ Ts. We might tweak these #s later

[matmat]

I think this is a great idea. I would like to see something similar implemented for the main bridge club, where the percentage of completed hands is used.

[uday]

I think this is a great idea. I would like to see something similar implemented for the main bridge club, where the percentage of completed hands is used.

 

 

You mean something like a filter for a table , set by a table host ?

[matmat]

You mean something like a filter for a table , set by a table host ?

yes. Exactly that. Or, possibly, average number of hands played per partner.

[allspice]

 

Wonderful tool. There are too many players who leave after a bad hand. It really can make things difficult for TDs sometimes.

Its great BBO keeps improving the soft.

A good feature would be to be able to identify players logged with 2 nicks simultaneously. Could be a number by their nick as winners of certain tournaments have!

[olegru]

Out of curiousity. I hope as "tourneys they entered on BBO" you count only tournaments player registered originaly, not including once he entered as a substitute?

[Bbradley62]

Out of curiousity. I hope as "tourneys they entered on BBO" you count only tournaments player registered originaly, not including once he entered as a substitute?

Why? If you enter a tournament as a sub, shouldn't you get credit for playing the remainder of the tournament to completion?

[Bbradley62]

You'll get Qs about this number. Just send them to us. We compute this number nightly, looking at the last 30 days , for people with 10+ Ts. We might tweak these #s later

This is a great idea! Is this number visible? Can I see what my own number is, or the number of a prospective partner at the partnership desk?

[uday]

Is this number visible?

 

Not yet. It was thrown together in a hurry ( like I'm going to throw together MatMat's idea for a similar number for MBC completion rate ).

 

I couldn't think of a clean way to show this statistic. Someday it will go into profiles, i'm sure.

 

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[olegru]

Why? If you enter a tournament as a sub, shouldn't you get credit for playing the remainder of the tournament to completion?

Im payed tournament (like acbl speedballs) person entered as a substitute will be replaced by software if original player return. I don't think it is reasonable to punish people who help to "keep game running" by decreasing their " Minimum Completion Rate" stats if it could affect their accesibility to other tournaments.

[Bbradley62]

Why? If you enter a tournament as a sub, shouldn't you get credit for playing the remainder of the tournament to completion?

Im payed tournament (like acbl speedballs) person entered as a substitute will be replaced by software if original player return. I don't think it is reasonable to punish people who help to "keep game running" by decreasing their " Minimum Completion Rate" stats if it could affect their accesibility to other tournaments.

Certainly, players should not be penalized for that. If it's do-able, subs should get credit for completing a tournament if they play until either (i)the completion of the tournament or (ii)they are replaced in favor of the original player.

[mrdodgy]

Finally!

 

This might even get me TD'ing again.

 

Thanks :)

[MTSummit]

a nice idea!

[Rain]

If sub finishes tourney, it counts as a completed tourney.

 

If sub bails from tourney, it counts as a bailed tourney.

 

If sub is subbed out from tourney, it doesn't count for or against them.

[matmat]

Not yet. It was thrown together in a hurry ( like I'm going to throw together MatMat's idea for a similar number for MBC completion rate ).

 

I couldn't think of a clean way to show this statistic. Someday it will go into profiles, i'm sure.

 

U

 

Of the two I mentioned above, I think I somewhat prefer the partner ration one; I am not sure how effective the completed boards number would be, especially since I think that if someone sits down and bails before a bid is made, it doesn't count against them.

 

I would be curious to see a histogram of the tourney completion values for the BBO populace. It might be a good graphical representation of sensible cut-offs.

[uday]

For the people for whom we have enough data to have an opinion

 

 

+------------------------+------------+
| approx_completion_rate | Percentage |
+------------------------+------------+
|                      0 |          0 | 
|                      5 |          0 | 
|                     10 |          0 | 
|                     15 |          0 | 
|                     20 |          0 | 
|                     25 |          0 | 
|                     30 |          0 | 
|                     35 |          0 | 
|                     40 |          0 | 
|                     45 |          1 | 
|                     50 |          1 | 
|                     55 |          1 | 
|                     60 |          2 | 
|                     65 |          3 | 
|                     70 |          4 | 
|                     75 |          5 | 
|                     80 |          8 | 
|                     85 |         10 | 
|                     90 |         17 | 
|                     95 |         21 | 
|                    100 |         27 | 
+------------------------+------------+

 

In other words, 21% of the people about whom we have an opinion are around 95%. Another 27 are close to 100. so about 48% are 95+ , more or less.

 

For 2 people for whom we have an opinion, there are approx 3 who play Ts, but not frequently enough for us to have an opinion.

[Echognome]

Great idea. I think when this is all ironed out, it will be a great way to address what has been an issue in many tournaments.

[Bbradley62]

As you'd expect, there are fewer people who have a 100% completion rate than a 50% completion rate.

I don't understand this comment, in light of the chart above.

[matmat]

I don't understand this comment, in light of the chart above.

Guessing noone has completed every tournament.

[TylerE]

I don't understand this comment, in light of the chart above.

 

Think of it in terms of intervals:

 

There are fewer people who have completed 100% or more of their tournements than those who have completed 50% or more of their tournements.

[jillybean]

I tried this filter on an indy today using an 80% completion rate.

Typically I would sub 15+ players who had quit. Today I subbed 3, a huge improvement. :)

[nige1]

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[Bbradley62]

Do players who are unable to register due to this restrcition get a very clear explanation of what has happened and why?

[jillybean]

Do players who are unable to register due to this restrcition get a very clear explanation of what has happened and why?

 

I expect that they would get the standard message that is sent when any restriction is not met;

"Sorry, this is a private tournament. It is not open to the public. Please contact the tourney host for details"