manudude03 Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 [hv=pc=n&e=sj6haq9764dakcj94&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=3cp5c]133|200[/hv] IMPs, none vul, what's your call? Sorry had hand wrong before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtvesuvius Posted October 29, 2010 Report Share Posted October 29, 2010 Edited, since new hand: Much closer now. If I go with my gut, I still pass. But bad things happen when I actually think about the situation: Partner rates to have a stiff/void in Clubs here. The fact that partner had Shortness in their suit and failed to act is not a good thing. Partner probably (hopefully?) has a few useful cards, and if nothing else, it may be a good save, however 3 tricks look fairly certain, provided partner leads a red suit. I think I would bid 5♥ at IMPs. There is too much to be lost by not bidding 5♥. Partner should understand to give us a LOT of wiggle room here, and not hang us for bidding some of their hand as well. In conclusion, I am a 5♥ bidder now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr1303 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I might have enough to bid 4H if possible, but I have too many losers to bid at the 5 level. Pass, fairly happily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 5♥ is completely sick. pass or double that is the question?? well I will pass because if I double I am not happy if partner pulls and if he doesn't pull it will just be 100 and sometimes 300 and sometimes -550, not very good prospects.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikestar13 Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I pass. I simply don't have the values for 5♥ and X is too rich for my blood--I wouldn't criticize it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Pass > double >>>>>> 5♥ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 Not pass; it looks like it is pretty much a guess as partner with an apparently club void could not act over 3♣. Still he should not need a lot for 5♥ to make and 5♣ may not go down a lot so my preferences are 5♥>X>>>>pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 31, 2010 Report Share Posted October 31, 2010 I don't like leaving a bidding without showing a good suit, I have overcalled on much sicker scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 double-post and had 2 cards wrong way round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted November 2, 2010 Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I think pulling to 6♦ is a weird action. I don't know. if N has a lot of points, 6♦ may well be more expensive than 5♥. Plus, 6♦ will basically never make and maybe 5♥ will. All that said, who knows what is right with these silly 8 card suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2010 I could have sworn the hand in OP was what I had, guess I was tired. Anyway, actual hand below: [hv=pc=n&s=st97h982d6caqjt65&w=sq53htdqjt98542c3&n=sak842hkj7d73ck87&e=sj6haq6543dakc942&d=s&v=0&b=11&a=3cp5c5hppdppp]399|300[/hv] There was some heated discussion afterwards basically involving partner calling my 5H sick, me trying to justify it and suggesting that he might have pulled with his hand on the basis that I've had to guess and it looks like I've guessed wrong. Do you pass or bid 6D with the west hand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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