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  1. 1. Who's at fault?

    • North 100%
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    • North 70%, South 30%
      0
    • Both 50%
      0
    • North 30%, South 70%
      1
    • South 100%
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    • No blame
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North no blame his action is normal.

 

South some blame he is hoping for four tricks to materialize from somewhere when he has 2 tricks and not much more than the K spare opposite a passed partner. To me this is a little too hopeful.

 

The rest luck.

 

3 or 4 look more normal actions from south.

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Missed the original pass. Sorry. Ok change the 3NT bid to 3H. Pass is now even poorer opposite a passed hand imo

Yeah, it's a tough hand but defending 3x opposite a passed hand that is evidently balancing on shape rather than high cards is not my cup of tea. I would try a semi-desperation 3.

 

But mostly I blame east for opening 3 in second seat on such a good hand. Another day that will cost him a vulnerable game.

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A passed hand usually does not have a very good hand... ;)

 

Good point. I, along with many others, seem to have overlooked the fact that partner is a passed hand.

 

Still, it is not unreasonable to pass 3x for lack of a better alternative. Our side could easily have 5 defensive tricks on this auction, and taking any call other than pass could lead to a disaster.

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To me, the North hand is an obvious pass. The working rule when balancing over a preempt is assume 11 points with partner and bid what you think you can make. Ask yourself "do I want to be at the three level with this hand opposite an 11 count?"

Absolute rubbish, I'll balance on a zero count with one or no diamonds, what do you think partner has in this circumstance ? Most of the time a big hand with a load of diamonds. Yes opps can trap you if they decide to pass their combined 27 count to you, but it doesn't really happen. It's only difficult where you have 3-7 and don't know if partner has any sort of hand.

 

My worry about passing out 3x is that holding the AK, there must be a fair chance opener has more than 7 of them particularly if 4 would show spades, at which point your defensive prospects don't look so good.

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Re bucky: if it was a team game i would be less surprised I think, the fact that I saw many in the field chose to pass 3 put me in deep thought though.

As I said in a different thread before: considering the average level on BBO, how many sensible bids do you expect to see out of a small sample of 16 tables? When the field is meaningless, "many" in the field don't hold water. And the presence of a couple of "BBO-experts" at the table probably would skew it even further downwards.

 

Of course that doesn't mean all bad results on BBO can be dismissed as lacking field protection. But IMO the random 16-table field cannot be relied on to make a conclusion one way or another.

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