Pass or 1 spade

[OgrO]

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[the hog]

Pass. Put one of the H hons in with the S and I bid 1S

[655321]

1♠

[ArtK78]

1♠. We should have a fit, and I have a useful hand for partner.

[mfa1010]

1♠. Nothing to be ashamed of there.

[Bbradley62]

1♠. Support with support.

[gwnn]

not pass :)

[pooltuna]

1♠ for me

[wyman]

1 spade for me too. Hand looks very useful to P.

[dellache]

Hi Denis, glad to see you have joined the forum :).

 

I'll go against the majority of bidders so far : I'd pass this.

No strong feelings about this, but :

- my Heart holding is bad (stiff honors) ;

- my ♦J looks worthless ;

- my overall strength/distribution relative to "our suits" (blacks) is poor ;

- my Spades are awful ;

- the spade fit is not guaranteed (3424, 3415 possible by CHO) ;

 

If opener rebids 2♥, I'll balance w/ 2♠. If he bids 1N or 2m, I'll be happy to defend.

[Cascade]

While the spade fit is not guaranteed there is only one way (most of the time) to find out if we have a fit and that is to bid now.

 

I am not that pessimistic about my heart honours they are in one of the suits that partner suggested that I bid. I think it is reasonably likely that partner has the ace and if not the jack which might be able to be made use of.

[gnasher]

If you're worried about the lack of a spade fit, why do you want to bid

pass 2

♥

pass pass

2

♠

instead of

1

♠

2

♥

pass pass

pass

[OleBerg]

I'd rather bid 2♠ than pass, but 1♠ is the correct bid of course.

[dellache]

If you're worried about the lack of a spade fit, why do you want to bid

pass 2

♥

pass pass

2

♠

instead of

1

♠

2

♥

pass pass

pass

 

If LHO bids 2♥, I'll assume that oppos have 8 Hearts, hence pard is very likely to hold 4315 or 4324. I wan't to be in 2♠ now. OTOH if they don't have a Heart fit, I'd rather defend the hand.

[dake50]

I offer one top H plus maybe a C-ruff as tricks. I'm not encouraging partner on this.

[OleBerg]

If LHO bids 2♥, I'll assume that oppos have 8 Hearts, hence pard is very likely to hold 4315 or 4324. I wan't to be in 2♠ now. OTOH if they don't have a Heart fit, I'd rather defend the hand.

But you are still guessing and relying on the opponents to bid sensibly.

 

1♠ doesn't have these drawbacks. Partner will always bid 2♠ with four, and pass with three.

[the hog]

1♠. We should have a fit, and I have a useful hand for partner.

 

Where is it Art?

[mcphee]

Clear 1S with the optimistic hope his S are considerably better than mine. This is not such a bad hand for S really and if we do not compete now, when?

[P_Marlowe]

1S.

 

But we are sticking fairly consequent to shape requirements

for a T/O, so I can be pretty sure to have a fit in spade,

not 100% sure, but fairly sure.

 

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[ArtK78]

1♠. We should have a fit, and I have a useful hand for partner.

 

Where is it Art?

The fit is in spades.

 

As for the useful hand, I am staring at it.

[bucky]

Pretty clear 1♠. I want to show my 4-card spades at a conveniently low level. I am not going to bid again unless forced.

 

My KQ tight in hearts are not ideal, but they are far from being useless. Certainly much better than, say, QJ tight. I also have some shape, no huge wastage in diamonds. This hand should play quite well if we have spade fit.

[benlessard]

1S is obvious, only downside is partner may lead a S where another lead might be safer.

[mikestar13]

Pass. Put one of the H hons in with the S and I bid 1S

 

My sentiments, too. Also add a queen somewhere and I bid the ♠ even with xxxx.

[Gerben42]

Some modern thinkers have started using Dbl here as T/O. For them, this is a perfect Double :)

Otherwise, 1♠ and hope partner won't be on lead.

[bucky]

Some modern thinkers have started using Dbl here as T/O. For them, this is a perfect Double :)

Otherwise, 1♠ and hope partner won't be on lead.

Even if Dbl is played as T/O (certainly non-standard), don't you need length in another suit (clubs)?