jillybean Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Playing XYZ, how do you handle this; [hv=d=w&v=e&s=sakt932hj7dk976c9]133|100|Scoring: IMP(P) 1♣ (X) 1♠(P) 1N (2♣) ?[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I don't think XYZ should be when opps compete after 1Z. BTW what does 2♣ show? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 2♣ is ♣'s So if it's off, what do you bid and what is 2♦ here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 3♣ forcing, 2♦ IMO is to play (4♠-5♦) double I am never sure about the meaning of doubles in partner's suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I don't know how any other conventions handle this but I try 4♠ hopefully partner is a believer that a 1NT call should have at least 2♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 2♣ is ♣'s So if it's off, what do you bid and what is 2♦ here? Pretty odd... Isn't double of 1♣ supposed to be based on shortness in clubs? Anyway, I think when opponents interfere, you need more ways to compete (at the cost of less ways to invite). So 2♦ will be natural (and non-forcing) for me. For this hand, 4♠ seems more straightforward. In fact, even without interference (i.e. XYZ is available), I'd probably still bid a direct 4♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 ez bidding, 4♠, bid what you can make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 2♣ is ♣'s So if it's off, what do you bid and what is 2♦ here? Pretty odd... Isn't double of 1♣ supposed to be based on shortness in clubs? What do you bid over 1♣ with xx,xx,Kxx,AKQxxx ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Pretty odd... Isn't double of 1♣ supposed to be based on shortness in clubs? What do you bid over 1♣ with xx,xx,Kxx,AKQxxx ? Pass... what else?? You don't / shouldn't double just to show you have an opening hand. Perhaps this post belongs to B/I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I actually doubled here and my partner left it in for -3 and 12imps. [hv=n=s64hak63dq53ckq52&s=sakt932hj7dk976c9]133|200|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Pretty odd... Isn't double of 1♣ supposed to be based on shortness in clubs? What do you bid over 1♣ with xx,xx,Kxx,AKQxxx ? Pass... what else?? You don't / shouldn't double just to show you have an opening hand. Perhaps this post belongs to B/I. Yes, sorry you're right. Ignore that post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I actually doubled here and my partner left it in for -3 and 12imps. If you have agreement that X here shows stiff club and 6th spade and good hand, then it is a perfect action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I actually doubled here and my partner left it in for -3 and 12imps. If you have agreement that X here shows stiff club and 6th spade and good hand, then it is a perfect action. Is this intended as helpful, funny or just sarcastic? Obviously it’s not a perfect auction, I wouldn’t have bothered asking about it if I thought it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Is this intended as helpful, funny or just sarcastic? Obviously it’s not a perfect auction, I wouldn’t have bothered asking about it if I thought it was. Sorry, of course it was a joke. What I meant to say is that, double is a much less descriptive bid than 4♠, although it probably worked better for this particular layout. Also note that the good result you had might be more of a function of opponent's silly bidding, but that is not something based on which you want to judge the success of certain bids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 3S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 2♣ is ♣'s So if it's off, what do you bid and what is 2♦ here? Pretty odd... Isn't double of 1♣ supposed to be based on shortness in clubs? What do you bid over 1♣ with xx,xx,Kxx,AKQxxx ? A natural 2C. If I am not playing this as natural, this is a clear pass and hope to compete later. On your hand I would bid 3S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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