Fluffy Posted October 8, 2010 Report Share Posted October 8, 2010 MPs, all vul. ♠8xx♥K8x♦x♣AK109xx 1NT-2♠3♣-3NT!4♠ we very rarelly supper accept with 2NT, 3NT shown diamond shortness but not forcing, no further agreements Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I pass although I would have liked to have a spade honour. I hope he has 5 or a strong 4-carder. 4♠ should clearly be natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 This seems like a no-brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I pass although I would have liked to have a spade honour. I hope he has 5 or a strong 4-carder. 4♠ should clearly be natural. Really? So what would you bid with AKQ/QJ/xxxx/QJxx? This seem to me to be almost the only hand Opener can hold aside from adding the SJ for a small diamond. My first thought was 6C and it only gets better as I think about it - I would treat 4S as a hand with no diamond wastage and needing a heart control to make slam reasonable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 With that hand opener can bid 4C and then 4S. Besides, you think that you are missing both red suit aces and you want to bid 6C? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 You are right han - I need to think about it some more. :) Even so, I do not see why 4S should be natural rather than a cue. Perhaps my thinking is clouded by my own preferred 1NT structures that bids hands like these in a different way. :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 It should be natural because you can do both: bid 4S if you want to suggest it as a contract, and bid 4C if you just want to cue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted October 10, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 partner had a monster ♠AKQ10x♥Axx♦9x♣Qxx LHO decided not to lead the obvious diamond, RHO would had done it for sure and since we were the only pair to play 4♠ from south we scored 94% anyway, but on a moe serious event missing this cold slam should be punnished more severelly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 partner had a monster ♠AKQ10x♥Axx♦9x♣Qxx LHO decided not to lead the obvious diamond, RHO would had done it for sure and since we were the only pair to play 4♠ from south we scored 94% anyway, but on a moe serious event missing this cold slam should be punnished more severelly. mmmmmmmmmmm I open 1s...no problem yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 It's MPs, so I'm surprised this is even a problem :P Pard had 4♦ available if he wanted to do some more talking. Sure he might have the perfect hand, say AKQxxAxxxxxQx but on average our 7 losers are too much for slam. EDIT: I put up the hand above before peeking at the 'solution' LOOOOL. I don't think you'd be "punished severely" for not bidding a slam most didn't find anyway eheh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 partner had a monster ♠AKQ10x♥Axx♦9x♣QxxHe will get no badge of courage for that 4♠ bid. He is facing a partner who showed GF with clubs + short diamonds and who made an effort to do so instead of just blasting 3NT. That shouldn't be based on random soft rubbish, and there is a slam opposite ♣AKxxxx. There is no way in this world (or in anyone else) that responder should try for slam over 4♠. So the blame goes to ... opener! :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Again agree with MFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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