Finch Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 I don't think it's a claim, either and would adjust under 73F as other people have done. I think the following are not claims: "It doesn't matter what you do" (this one is dubious, it might be) (when dummy hits)"We've missed a cold grand" As a defender, showing declarer a subset of your cards e.g. an AQ over dummy's KJ "It's not worth thinking about this trick" (if untrue, that can lead to a different adjustment, but if true it's not a claim as other tricks may still require thought) The following are claims:"I've got the rest""You are two off""My hand is high" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 9, 2010 Report Share Posted October 9, 2010 You are 2 off need not be a claim, I had a situation where I pulled the wrong card out the bidding box (6H instead of 6N) and didn't notice until dummy put the trumps on the right and I was in a 2-1 fit. RHO said "down 5" (quickly agreed) as a suggestion to agree a score rather than play the stupid contract at pairs when we were a board behind anyway. It was neither intended nor interpreted as a claim. We've missed a cold grand is clearly not a claim, it might not be in the denomination they're playing in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RMB1 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 On vugraph today, Helness was declarer in 4M. Operator "Helness: There is no way you can give it [the contract] to me". This sounded like a claim/concession to me. Sure enough, the next report from the operator was "and claimed 9". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 RHO said "down 5" (quickly agreed) as a suggestion to agree a score rather than play the stupid contract at pairs when we were a board behind anyway. It was neither intended nor interpreted as a claim. Maybe I'm dense, but it sure sounds like a claim to me. RHO has claimed 6 tricks for his side. You agreed with his claim, so that's how it was scored (Law 69A). Seems like it was both intended and interpreted as a (valid) claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 RHO said "down 5" (quickly agreed) as a suggestion to agree a score rather than play the stupid contract at pairs when we were a board behind anyway. It was neither intended nor interpreted as a claim. Maybe I'm dense, but it sure sounds like a claim to me. RHO has claimed 6 tricks for his side. You agreed with his claim, so that's how it was scored (Law 69A). Seems like it was both intended and interpreted as a (valid) claim. The tone of voice made it clear that it was a ballpark suggestion rather than a claim and that if I'd said 4 down he'd probably have taken it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 <best "Yes, Minister" British accent, with raised eyebrow>Highly irregular.</best...? Whatever works, I suppose. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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