inquiry Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=saj94hakqt85d82ck&s=sk62h73dkqj53cqj8]133|200|Scoring: MPSubmitted by Shyams Bidding Script: East west do not enter bidding. shymas comments: "Best contract in MPs is 3NT! 3NT is top, 4H is average, 4S is poor, slams are near zero. North will often find it hard to believe slam is not on! And if they try for slam, they won't have a way to play in the higher paying NT contract."[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 We had a very boring auction 1N - 2♦2♥ - 4♥ I'd be shocked if anyone is able to land in 3N 4N might be feasible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgoodwinsr Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 We shocked Richard, mostly by passing the diamond hand as dealer. Our sequence was P - 1S (potential canape); 2D - 3H (canape realized, and with a very strong heart suit; 2H would have been forcing); 3NT - P. That last pass didn't come very easily, but made some sense when partner couldn't open the bidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 29, 2010 Report Share Posted September 29, 2010 I also passed as dealer (I was swinging a bit), then we bid 1♥ 1NT2♠ 3NTP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 This was the only board I didn't like what han did (who btw I think has outbid me in general in this contest, so not saying this to criticize him!) Our auction was 1D 1H1N 3H4H (3H natural/forcing/slammish). Personally I think over 3H han should bid 3N. The spades are a little weak for it but I think it describes a slow hand with some black suit values, and more importantly I think it's not that unlikely that 3N is the right spot in MP, bidding contest or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 We had the same auction information wise (different bid-wise) to other people's, where 4♥ is mildly slammish, but when the North hand is completely in charge I can't see how you stay out of 4♥. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Yeah I bid terribly here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 We had a very boring auction 1N - 2♦2♥ - 4♥ I'd be shocked if anyone is able to land in 3N 4N might be feasible... This seems a very odd auction in that partner can easily have KQxx, Jx, Axxx, Qxx where it plays better in spades a good proportion of the time. Is there anything about any of the bids that is not entirely standard like the no trump denies 4cM ? People can also play in 3N after a weak no trump, but some of them might also find themselves playing there on the same auction opposite much less suitable hands opposite. eg 1N-2♦-2♥-2♠-2N-3♥-? 3N could easily be right, as it is, but partner could equally have Ax, x in the minors and be missing the Q♥ where 3N's not good, or not missing the Q♥ and you make 11 instead of 12 if everything behaves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Yeah, Richard choose to ignore the ♠s because we play standard Smolen and he wouldn't be able to show his true strength. Now he just showed a hand with 6+♥ and slam interest, otherwise we'd end up in at least 5♥. Our 1NT structure is actually the only part of the system where we don't have detailed agreements if opps don't intervene, since that's not a specific part of MOSCITO... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 This seems a very odd auction in that partner can easily have KQxx, Jx, Axxx, Qxx where it plays better in spades a good proportion of the time. Is there anything about any of the bids that is not entirely standard like the no trump denies 4cM ? Free and I aren't a particularly polished partnership at this point in time. When I saw the South hand, the main thing that went through my head was that a simple unambiguous range ask would be useful, so I decided to supress the Spade suit and use Jacoby, followed by a 4 level rebid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 3NT should score more than 10, IMO. Still MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 4NS peachy/Ig623NS TimG/TgoodwinSr3NS jdonn/gib3NN ant590/cryzeejim5HS Karlson/threenobob5HN bluecalm/redds4HS gnasher/catch224HS Hrothgar/Free4HN sohcahtoa/east4evil4HN hanp/jlall4HN cherdano/rogerclee4HN wackojack/flycycle4HN awn/elianna4HN olegru/driver7334HN bid_em_up/TylerE4HN MBodell/Javabean Scores (or it could be 11 and 5).5N = 105H = 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 GIB FOR THE WIN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Why is 5NT or even 4NT as high as 3NT? If they lead out clubs and none of the suits come in for you then you have exactly 9 tricks. At least 4NT should be a point less than 3NT. Even moreso for 5♥, that could easily be down with 4♥ making! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 GIB FOR THE WIN! I have some bad ones, including the only 0 on one board! Could be close to advance... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted October 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Why is 5NT or even 4NT as high as 3NT? If they lead out clubs and none of the suits come in for you then you have exactly 9 tricks. At least 4NT should be a point less than 3NT. Even moreso for 5♥, that could easily be down with 4♥ making! Lazyness.... Ok, 3N = 114N = 104H = 55H = 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 Why is 5NT or even 4NT as high as 3NT? If they lead out clubs and none of the suits come in for you then you have exactly 9 tricks. At least 4NT should be a point less than 3NT. Even moreso for 5♥, that could easily be down with 4♥ making! I agree. Something like: 3nt = 114nt = 105nt = 94♥ = 55♥ = 3 seems about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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