Little Kid Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I would bid slam with South. It may not be prime with a 4333 shape but at the end of the day it still is a respectable 17 count with two Aces. You will usually have 32+ hcps, making slam look pretty decent imo. If partner only accepts with reasonable 16s or 17s you will rarely get to a bad slam but you will probably miss quite a few decent ones too. Then it seems like a winner to man up go for slam by yourself now. On the flip side I see people saying North should accept with his (albeit good) 15-count. This is not my style, but if your partner is one of those players then 4N seems totally fine. Maybe this is a matter of knowing your partner's style and what he rates to be worthy of accepting a quantitative invite. Either way, these two hands should be bidding this slam easily imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Someone should have bid 5NT at some point. South instead of 4NT and North instead of pass. how standard is that 5NT is a quantitative to 7NT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shyams Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Someone should have bid 5NT at some point. South instead of 4NT and North instead of pass. how standard is that 5NT is a quantitative to 7NT? Agree with fluffy. I thought it is standard to play 1NT - 5NT as invite to 7NT.Opener cannot pass -- if not interested in 7, he bids 6NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Someone should have bid 5NT at some point. South instead of 4NT and North instead of pass. how standard is that 5NT is a quantitative to 7NT? 5N instead of 4N would certainly be "bid 6 or 7" for us and that is reasonably normal in old style bidding, N could certainly bid 5N over 4N to pass the buck back as "not quite enough to bid 6 myself" and S would then bid it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I have always played 5D as showing an accept with 5 cards. I think it is better to agree that you can still stop in 5NT. For example if responder has xxx of diamonds he'll bid 5NT and opener can pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 I have always played 5D as showing an accept with 5 cards. I think it is better to agree that you can still stop in 5NT. For example if responder has xxx of diamonds he'll bid 5NT and opener (will) pass. Not really a "FYP". Just laying groundword for a question: Should opener only trot out a five bagger which could use a little help with a minimum? Perhaps with an actual acceptance he should just accept and keep the auction a little bit blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Sometimes 6m is much better, seems wrong to only bid 5D with marginal hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted September 30, 2010 Report Share Posted September 30, 2010 Not really a "FYP". Just laying groundword for a question: Should opener only trot out a five bagger which could use a little help with a minimum? Perhaps with an actual acceptance he should just accept and keep the auction a little bit blind. Exactly my point. With 5-card suit and non-minimum hand, why even bid 5D? Jumping to slam is much more straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OleBerg Posted October 1, 2010 Report Share Posted October 1, 2010 I hardly ever quant, (my system allows me to misbid my hands at a lower level.) but this makes sense to me: Replying to 4NT, you can:- Pass- Accept and bid a 4-card suits at the 5-level. (Then bid up the line.)- Re-invite with 5NT- Accept with a fivecard-suit at the 6-level.- Accept with 6NT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dake50 Posted October 5, 2010 Report Share Posted October 5, 2010 Yellow Rose of Texas Try that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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