What do u bid with this?

[badderzboy]

[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sxhxxxxdxxxxcaxxx&w=sxhjxxdkckqjxxxxx&e=sqxxxhakqxxdxxxcx&s=sakjxxxxhxdaqjxxc]399|300|Scoring: MPs[/hv]

 

How do u bid and play this hand in all seats?

[Chamaco]

1S-(4C)-p-p

4D-p-5D all pass

[whereagles]

2D (4C) p p

4S p p p

[inquiry]

I don't like opening strong two suiters 2♣ if I can help it. So I guess I open 1♠ as south.

 

Ok, it is matchpoints and it is only one board. AS With an eight card suit, and at this vulnerability, I force them to make their decision at a very high level indeed, so I would preempt 5♣. If north can double for penalty, he should double. As north, penalty double is not available for me, but the double would be "takeout" which of course partner could always pass. With four culbs, I know he is not passing, so I pass. East has no bid. So back to south. With 7-5 come alive.. so South will bid 5♦. I don't think as north I would bid 6.. so 5♦ becomes the contract. On the expected club king lead, I will make at least six.

[luke warm]

1S ( 4C) p (p) 5D (p) 6D is what i expect... north might pass, then 5D

[Antoine Fourrière]

Ben's sequence (West should bid 5♣) is reasonable, but so is a 6♠ opening, because:

 

You're afraid of a sacrifice. (Here, you'll enjoy it if West takes the bash.)

4♠ looks wronger than 6♠.

5♠ should be a preempt and wouldn't show what you have anyway.

The heart singleton and club void suggest that there may be no true right or wrong contract (like another thread's 3N which requires losing no more than four spades with Qx in front of xxx).

 

 

If you really wish to use an artificial game force, an option might be a 3N opening showing a freak and asking for shortness (the most useful information, if you have a nonsolid seven-card suit or a six-five with a good five-card suit).

 

If they have nothing to say:

3N 4♥ (spade shortness) 5♦ (4♠ to play, 4N to demand specific aces) 6♦ (6♣ with another cover card)

On West's actual hand:

3N (5/6♣) X

But if North has another cover card

3N (5♣) _ X (two-suiter) 5♦ 6♦

3N (6♣) _ X (two-suiter) 6♦.

 

(That treatment is inspired from LAW discoverer Jean-René Vernes' idea of a 2N opening showing either a seven-card suit or a six-five, and three losers, and which is more economical, but it seems to me that 2N is better used for other purposes and will catch an overcall anyway. )

[the hog]

The auction is likely to be the same at all tables regardless of system played.

1S (5C) are pretty automatic. Don't open 2 suiters with a strong bid, unless they are so strong in Hcp there is a risk they will be passed out; that's not the case here. 5D from Sth now - all pass.

 

Jimmy and Mauro, you need more vitamins; I can't possibly believe anyone would bid only 4C with this hand at this vulnerability!

[luke warm]

right you are ron... i still think north might bid 6D though... a pass is probably better, but imagine it's you sitting there... i *know* you'd be tempted :)

[EricK]

The auction is likely to be the same at all tables regardless of system played.

1S (5C) are pretty automatic. Don't open 2 suiters with a strong bid, unless they are so strong in Hcp there is a risk they will be passed out; that's not the case here. 5D from Sth now - all pass.

 

Jimmy and Mauro, you need more vitamins; I can't possibly believe anyone would bid only 4C with this hand at this vulnerability!

I agree that 1♠ (5♣) are automatic.

 

Now a lot of people play that pass is forcing in this situation, in which case, should North pass? If he doubles because of the singleton ♠ and four ♣, then South will still probably bid 5♦. Now I think North will raise to 6♦, which might make, depending on the lead. If North makes a FP on the first round, then South might gamble 6♦ on his own.

 

Eric

[Fluffy]

I am with chamaco´s bidding, althou 5♣ overcall is not so far actually.