spades...

[Fluffy]

MPs, all vul, north dealer

 

1♣-(X)-??

 

♠A1087xxx

♥J

♦Qxx

♣Jx

[MFA]

I would try 1♠ only. If we bid three and catch partner with a singleton we could have blown the board already.

[whereagles]

1♠. Could bid 2 or 3 as well if I felt like it.

[Free]

I have ♠s and I have distribution, so 1♠ wtp?

[Fluffy]

1♠ would work very poorly, partner had

 

♠x

♥AQxx

♦Kx

♣AKxxxx

 

most of the field playing 4♠ down, 2♠ bought the contract.

[gwnn]

But why do you bid 2♠ showing 4-7 if you don't have 4-7 and have one more spade?

 

I don't like 2♠ because it's an underbid and don't like 3♠ either because my spades are not suitable enough, so 1♠ is good. I don't understand why 1♠ would work so poorly, looks like we play 3♣ no?

[Siegmund]

I'm fine with 1, or with 4 .... I can't understand 2 or 3 at all with this hand.

[Phil]

I like 2♠. Our hand has too many flaws for three.

 

I want to preempt their hearts, and 1♠ doesn't get the yob done.

[jdonn]

The flaws for 3 are also flaws for 2. There isn't much preemptive about this hand. Anyway I don't at all see why 1♠ would blow the board if the field is in 4♠.

 

1♣ (X) 1♠

2♥ 2♠

3♣ 3♠

 

and we are done. I don't know why the field can't handle it but yay me for being able to evaluate my hands!

[nige1]

MPs, all vul, north dealer

♠ A1087xxx ♥ J ♦ Qxx ♣ Jx

1♣-(X)-??

IMO 1♠ = 10, 3♠ = 6, 4♠ = 5, 2♠ = 3.

• You have too many ♠ for 2♠ :blink:
  
• You have too much defence for 3♠ :blink:
  
• You have too few playing tricks for 4♠ :(
  
• You have too many HCP for a bid other than 1♠ :)
  

4♠X - 2? Oh well, Fluffy can't accuse me of being a result-merchant :)

[Free]

1♠ would work very poorly, partner had

 

♠x

♥AQxx

♦Kx

♣AKxxxx

 

most of the field playing 4♠ down, 2♠ bought the contract.

What did partner do to ruin this hand?

[the hog]

I can't really understand any bid apart from 1S. I understand the comment that 1S would work poorly even less.

[Fluffy]

But why do you bid 2♠ showing 4-7 if you don't have 4-7 and have one more spade?

My reasoning was that suit quality is low, the jacks are spread and short and I had a table feeling about RHO's double promising majors (not sure of why this, but he in fact had 4432).

 

But my reasonings are not very good latelly so listen to others better :).

[rhm]

But why do you bid 2♠ showing 4-7 if you don't have 4-7 and have one more spade?

 

I don't like 2♠ because it's an underbid and don't like 3♠ either because my spades are not suitable enough, so 1♠ is good. I don't understand why 1♠ would work so poorly, looks like we play 3♣ no?

If you feel that the hand is unsuitable for 3♠ or higher (I do) then 2♠ is just fine.

The seventh spade compensates for the bad honor structure and the weak suit.

The trouble with 1♠ is that you may not be able to rebid them at a low level, since opponents have a heart fit.

Having quacks outside of your long suit and a singleton ♥ jack is enough for me to consider this hand well within 4-7 HCP.

 

Rainer Herrmann