plaur Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 [hv=d=e&v=n&s=sqt965ht73djt8c53]133|100|Scoring: MP1♥ - p - 1NT - X2♦ - ?[/hv]Matchpoints, we are vul, they are not. 1NT was 6-9.Partner and I had a disagreement about this hand. Hope to get some answers we can learn from!Whats the thought process good players use to decide on the bid here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wank Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 well, you don't need to bid now RHO's bid in front of you so you shouldn't bid with absolute pony. however, you have a 5th spade and a half decent suit so i wouldn't call this a pony hand. i'd volunteer 2S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 You have a bad hand, just pass. You are almost definitely getting another chance anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Yes pass because we have nothing. We are r/w too. Also, LHO bid a limited 1NT, RHO made a minimum rebid and we have a 3 count, there has to be a fair chance partner has a strong hand. If we bid 2♠ now we are likely to be playing 4♠ even when it has no play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloa513 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Partner should not go crazy after all you passed over 1H. 2♠ Opponents have relatively bad fit so risk of a bad break is higher and partner still doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Not so sure I want to pass at MP. Sure some, many partners are going to get excited if we bid 2♠ - but should they? Opps have around half the deck - so p should know that we've got about 20 minus whatever he can see. In that light perhaps I don't have such a bad hand in context. Nor am I that sure I am going to get another chance. Responder may be about to pass with 4 diamonds and p might be be about shrug, "I've bid my hand once, why stick my neck out twice". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4. I agree completely with your common sense here at these colors and -200 in 2♠ or in a higher contract if PD thinks we actually have something will be a near zero. This is a very easy pass at these colors with this junk. If PD x's again, we can then bid ♠ if passed around to us or if still at the 2 level. Voluntarily bidding when this weak is a good way to have 3 opps rather than 2 since PD will expect more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I agree with all of the above. Reverse the colours and I'm in and I would be in R/W if I had a singleton somewhere but knowing it's risky business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 It almost doesn't cost anything to pass here. You are not unhappy if 2♦ gets passed out (partner should have 3+ diamonds for the double). More likely LHO will bid 2♥, and when that is passed to you, you can then balance with 2♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 This situation depends on your agreements. The 'standard' call would probably be pass. But it is quite possible to play 2S here as promising very little in the way of strength. If I have that arrangement then I prefer to get 2S off my chest now; if not then I'll Pass and back in later in case partner gets over-excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 this situation depends on what pass means...if junk ok....I pass;. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 If I could bid 2♠ and bar partner from bidding on with a medium hand, I would do so. Its quite likely LHO will bid 2♥ and now that I have boxed my hand 2♠ is perfect. If LHO does more, I'll be glad I passed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 I would call 2♠ as the opps will probably end up in 3♥ if I pass and then try 2♠. Bidding now will create the most difficulty for them. This partially assumes that 1NT was forcing and they play going thru F1NT shows a crappy raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayin801 Posted September 23, 2010 Report Share Posted September 23, 2010 1♠. Wait, I can't do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 If I could bid 2♠ and bar partner from bidding on with a medium hand, I would do so. Its quite likely LHO will bid 2♥ and now that I have boxed my hand 2♠ is perfect. If LHO does more, I'll be glad I passed. Nicely said. Agree with passing for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rodney26 Posted September 24, 2010 Report Share Posted September 24, 2010 Pass at these colors. The red suit shortnesses are on top of me, which could get ugly. Txx/Jxx in opponents suits are terrible holdings. Would bid 2♠ if the colors were reversed, or all white, or if I was, say, 5-2-2-4... or 5-1-3-4. Agree with all of this -- especially the red suit holdings. I'd add that partner's honors are not likely to be in a working position with the stronger hand on his left. The opps also haven't found a fit yet. You're likely going to be on lead so you don't have to worry about partner's club lead potentially blowing a trick. Also agree with Phil's points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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