jmcw Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 [hv=n=sxxxht6d9xxckjxxx&s=sxhakj982dkq87xca]133|200|N E S W- 1♠2♠ 3♠p p 4♥ AP[/hv] West led a low ♠ to the King, East continued with the Ace. 3 lines come to mind. 1. Ruff, bang down A&K of trumps if the Queen falls then play to loose no more than 2 ♦ tricks. 2. Ruff, play the ♥J trying to create and entry to dummy in order to limit ♦ loosers to 1. 3. Ruff high(8), play ♥2 toward dummy and insert the 6 if the Q does not appear, again attempting to get to dummy! Can anyone provide some math on the chances of success and additionally, if playing line 1 and the ♥Q falls doubleton then how should ♦ be played for 2 loosers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 A (too?) quick analysis: If we bang down ♥AK we need ♥Q to be double.If lead middle heart, we need ♦A to be double, but onside as well. So we should lead middle heart only if we estimate that the chance of sneaking past west's ♥Qxx is greater than the risk of ♦A offside. There are some minor issues with a stiff ♥Q or ♦JT tight also to consider. If we bang down ♥Qx double, we should play diamonds from the top rather than duck the first round, since a stiff T/J is in principle twice as likely as a stiff A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Playing diamonds from the top also works if it is Jx or Tx, so it's really not close.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Playing diamonds from the top also works if it is Jx or Tx, so it's really not close.. what I understand here is nonsense, so I supose I missunderstood :blink:, Jx and 10x are irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 This morning it was a 5-2 fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Playing diamonds from the top also works if it is Jx or Tx, so it's really not close.. yes but the objective is to lose only 1♦ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcw Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 A (too?) quick analysis: If we bang down ♥AK we need ♥Q to be double.If lead middle heart, we need ♦A to be double, but onside as well. So we should lead middle heart only if we estimate that the chance of sneaking past west's ♥Qxx is greater than the risk of ♦A offside. There are some minor issues with a stiff ♥Q or ♦JT tight also to consider. If we bang down ♥Qx double, we should play diamonds from the top rather than duck the first round, since a stiff T/J is in principle twice as likely as a stiff A.If you cannot get to dummy to lead a ♦ toward the KQ then you will loose at least 2 ♦ trick unless the JT are dub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 A (too?) quick analysis: If we bang down ♥AK we need ♥Q to be double.If lead middle heart, we need ♦A to be double, but onside as well. So we should lead middle heart only if we estimate that the chance of sneaking past west's ♥Qxx is greater than the risk of ♦A offside. There are some minor issues with a stiff ♥Q or ♦JT tight also to consider. If we bang down ♥Qx double, we should play diamonds from the top rather than duck the first round, since a stiff T/J is in principle twice as likely as a stiff A.If you cannot get to dummy to lead a ♦ toward the KQ then you will loose at least 2 ♦ trick unless the JT are dub.Que?I think I did figure that part out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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