raist Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 all redpartner deals and opens 1♣, bidding goes 1♣-(P)-1N-(2♠) pass back to you on balancing seat JT9 Axx KQTxx xx what do you bid and why? does 3D come to mind?does it matter that you play a prepared club where partner opens 1C systemically even with 4Ds and 2Cs, for example? i feel like 3D is quite a poor bid but i can't quite articulate why to my partnerany suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 at MP I am inclined to X to show a maximum and a willingness to defend. Much harder problem at IMPS I would probably pass and defend undoubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill1157 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 is an initial response of 1 ♦ natural? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 (edited) is an initial response of 1 ♦ natural?Maybe not for them, but even in a natural system 1NT would be chosen by many players for systemic reasons. For instance, if 1C-1N shows 8-10, and 1D is nebulous ---weaker in NT or real suit and stronger hand or longer suit. Transfer responders to 1C will also be comfortable with not having bid 1D :) Having bid 1NT showing 8-10, I would defend 2S in peace, blaming our agreements if opener has four diamonds and 2 clubs; and definitely calling 1C something other than "prepared". Edited September 19, 2010 by aguahombre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raist Posted September 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 is an initial response of 1 ♦ natural? yes we play 1♦ NAT (for now anyway)and 1N is 8-10 we were playing IMPs 3D feels pretty dangerous to me with 3 spades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 The hand has 12 cards, so I take it you have 3 clubs. It is very likely pard will have one of these: 1. 12-14 balanced2. 11-14 unbalanced with 5 clubs and 4 in a red suit If he has hand 1, you'll probably get away with bidding 3♦. However, if he has hand 2, 3♦ now is frought with danger, as you may get a xx15 for dummy. Still, double seems to be fine, as you already denied a 4 card major. I'd try that, regardless of scoring and match status. If pard bis.. 2NT: you can either sit it or pull to 3♦ if you feel like hogging the hand3♣: pard probably has the unbalanced variant, so you should sit it3♦: fine, pass3♥ and higher: I can't really see why he'd bid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raist Posted September 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 The hand has 12 cards, so I take it you have 3 clubs. It is very likely pard will have one of these: 1. 12-14 balanced2. 11-14 unbalanced with 5 clubs and 4 in a red suit If he has hand 1, you'll probably get away with bidding 3♦. However, if he has hand 2, 3♦ now is frought with danger, as you may get a xx15 for dummy. Still, double seems to be fine, as you already denied a 4 card major. I'd try that, regardless of scoring and match status. If pard bis.. 2NT: you can either sit it or pull to 3♦ if you feel like hogging the hand3♣: pard probably has the unbalanced variant, so you should sit it3♦: fine, pass3♥ and higher: I can't really see why he'd bid that. sorry you have a 3352 hand what you said sounds reasonable though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 hmm.. well, I sit for my analysis, but if pard bids 3♣ over the double, I might consider pulling to 3♦ if opps double that in a flash :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyr Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 As the Scotsman said to the motorist, I wouldn't start from here... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereagles Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 I'm not familiar with that expression lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 As the Scotsman said to the motorist, I wouldn't start from here... How about, "you are already there." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 In the unlikely event that partner has 4 diamonds and 2 clubs, he also has 3 or 4 spades. If opener had a takeout double available over 2♠ then many hands with short spades can be ruled out, and defending 2♠ looks a good option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy_h Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Pass now. Don't understand why I didn't bid my KQ10xx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytoox Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 I am dbling here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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