blackshoe Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 [hv=d=w&v=n&s=sajt97654h8da943c]133|100|Scoring: MP(P)-1♥-(1♠)-?[/hv] East is a decent player, though not as good as he thinks he is. NS are an intermediate partnership. They've not discussed what to do with a hand like this on this auction. What's your call, and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 What is your reasoning? How do you expect the auction to continue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 What is your reasoning? Because 2S would be a cuebid, 3S would be a splinter, and 4S would be exclusion! Seriously if they bid your suit the only option is to pass. This is not dangerous because partner won't pass it out with shortness (which we know he has). We are not expecting to be able to defend 1S X, that is basically impossible, we are hoping to bid spades naturally at some point which involves starting with a pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 What is your reasoning? Because 2S would be a cuebid, 3S would be a splinter, and 4S would be exclusion!Yes. Yes. I wish (partner doesn't know exclusion). Seriously if they bid your suit the only option is to pass. This is not dangerous because partner won't pass it out with shortness (which we know he has). We are not expecting to be able to defend 1S X, that is basically impossible, we are hoping to bid spades naturally at some point which involves starting with a pass. LHO has shortness too. :P Okay, you make sense to me. At the table, I reasoned (if you can call it that) as you say regarding 2♠ and 3♠, and since we'd never discussed 4♠ on this auction, I thought perhaps she'd be on the same wavelength when I bid 4♠. She wasn't. She bid 4NT (1430), I bid 5♥ (I know, that's a lie, but we haven't discussed how to deal with voids either), she passed. down 5, undoubled. She said later that she thought I must have some kind of big hand with heart support. The full hand:[hv=d=w&v=n&n=shakq96dt65ckqt62&w=s3ht54dqj82cj9854&e=skq82hj732dk7ca73&s=sajt97654h8da943c]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv]Nine of twelve tables played it in 4♠ making, but I don't know how the bidding went at those tables. How would the bidding go, d'you think, after a pass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 We might have actually defended 1♠X by passing lol. Not every LHO would redouble. Anyway I think pass is easy even if 4♠ is natural since you can always bid that next, even if it's like 1/20 to defend 1♠X why not go for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 We might have actually defended 1♠X by passing lol. Not every LHO would redouble. Anyway I think pass is easy even if 4♠ is natural since you can always bid that next, even if it's like 1/20 to defend 1♠X why not go for it? Yes, maybe 1/20 to defend 1S X, and 1/2 to have an accident over a direct 4S :P Also, I'm not sure I would drive to 4S. We lack the spade 8, so we should have 3 trump losers most of the time. Of course sometimes we can single them in and then endplay them and stuff like that. I would like to see how the auction develops before committing though, maybe partner bids 2C rather than X and then my hand is really looking bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 13, 2010 Report Share Posted September 13, 2010 What is your reasoning? Because 2S would be a cuebid, 3S would be a splinter, and 4S would be exclusion! Seriously if they bid your suit the only option is to pass. This is not dangerous because partner won't pass it out with shortness (which we know he has). We are not expecting to be able to defend 1S X, that is basically impossible, we are hoping to bid spades naturally at some point which involves starting with a pass. yep shouldn't be dangerous to pass hope we don't have an 11 or 12 card ♠ fit :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 just wondering if this is a modern day record for a trap. I would pass just for fun. But 3S only on most second chances...chicken that I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirate22 Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 pass 1 sp-and await----assume p will x if not why not--also if p bids 2c-all is not lost as you thought and stated.--i would now bid 2hts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 pass 1 sp-and await----assume p will x if not why not--also if p bids 2c-all is not lost as you thought and stated.--i would now bid 2hts If you bid 2H after pd's 2C bid, that is where you will play the hand.Pass followed by 2S and then 4S over partner's 2C for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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