Flat as a pancake

[aguahombre]

And if partner doesn't have a stopper, she has to declare it. :P I like that. I owe her one.

[kayin801]

I have X to show this hand (1S shows 4+) but without that agreement X is still the best lie. 2♣ is the only other thing that comes to mind.

[Rossoneri]

For the doublers:

 

LHO passes, partner bids 1♠ and RHO bids 2♥. What do you do now?

[JLOGIC]

For the doublers:

 

LHO passes, partner bids 1♠ and RHO bids 2♥. What do you do now?

pass!

[TimG]

I recently heard/read that someone did a study and determined that Kansas actually is flatter than a pancake.

[aguahombre]

My ex was close.

[Rossoneri]

My ex was close.

Nay, "Airport runway" is used more often in that context.

[aguahombre]

unfortunately, she never stepped out onto one.

[Free]

Since you ask what I would bid: 1♠. This shows some values, but 0-3♠ and no stopper (I play Dbl as 4+♠). Alternatively you can play the opposite, like Hog, that Dbl shows this hand and 1♠ is natural.

[whereagles]

@justin:

 

Obviously, 1NT will get you into wrong-sided contracts every now and then. But other bids will also lead to bad contracts in other circumstances.

 

My point is that 1NT will lead to more good contracts than other bids, ON AVERAGE. This is because it's a bid that follows the "importance inequality".

 

As I said, there's actually a way out of these 7-10 hands without stopper, which is to dbl WITHOUT 4 spades and bid 1♠ not with 5 but with 4+ cards. You lose the distinction between 4 and 5 spades, but you don't usually have it anyway if RHO passes instead of overcalling. Some players use and recommend this agreement.

[Rossoneri]

The full hand and what happened at the table:

 

[hv=d=s&v=n&n=sa742hj5daj53c732&w=sqt8h876dt6cqjt96&e=sj95hakq93dq942ck&s=sk63ht42dk87ca854]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv]

 

P-P-1♦(1)-1♥

X-P-1♠-2♥

3♦-P-3♠(2)-P

4♠(3)-P-P-X

AP

 

(1) - Very aggressive 3rd seat

(2) - Trying to get more points for making

(3) - 3♠ showed extra, so let's go game

 

Of course, this was not a huge success....

 

(I was North. I don't deny being faultless in this sequence.)

[aguahombre]

A tough one, when all four players do strange things. Difficult hand to get to the par 2S undoubled down one or allow E/W to try 3H down one.

 

P (P) 1D (1H)----not that I would bid 1D, but that is what happened

X (2H) P (P)-----X either denies Spades or is Kayinone's least of evils

X (P) 2S (?)-----second double=more points than first double.

 

N/S are now out of the auction. The opps either bid hearts again or they don't.

 

On the actual auction the failure to raise hearts the first time, and the 2H call by the overcaller, are really weird.

[Rossoneri]

On the actual auction the failure to raise hearts the first time, and the 2H call by the overcaller, are really weird.

Stranger things have happened at this club.

[gwnn]

3♦ ??

 

btw it's best to play 1♠ as 3 and 2♠ as minimum, 4 spades

[bucky]

On the actual auction the failure to raise hearts the first time, and the 2H call by the overcaller, are really weird.

No more weird than the way N/S cruise to 4♠ afterwards.

[JLOGIC]

well thats a pretty sad auction heh

[Fluffy]

3♦ ??

 

btw it's best to play 1♠ as 3 and 2♠ as minimum, 4 spades

If by minimum you mean 12-14 we might have a problem :angry: