4S over 4H?

[MickyB]

[hv=d=w&v=n&s=sjxxhxxdxxxcaqjxx]133|100|Scoring: IMP

P-1S-4H-??[/hv]

[JLOGIC]

I would, only at these colors, though I hate to admit it. In an ideal world RHO has 7-4 in the reds or something and there is a double fit. On a bad day I'll go for 300 or worse against a plus.

 

I usually follow a "rule" that you should only let them preempt you 1 level higher than you would have bid to voluntarily without the preempt, so here I probably would only compete to 2S so I'm violating my rule, but I feel like my hand being pure like this and the vulnerability being w/r changes things... probably I'm just getting pwned though.

[benlessard]

close but i dont like xx in H. Reverse the red and ill do it.

[the hog]

Pass. Only 3 card H support against likely bad splits.

[MarkDean]

Pass for me - don't like it though.

[Codo]

OMG so many diasgreeing with Justin?

 

I am addicted to harmony, so I agree with him. I would hate to bid 4 ♠ but I would do it.

[Siegmund]

First attempt at answering the thread deleted because I misread the vulnerability.

[MickyB]

Justin, you are r/w.

[JLOGIC]

Justin, you are r/w.

oh then I pass, sorry I'm really bad at reading the vulnerability on BBF threads for some reason heh.

[the hog]

Justin, you are r/w.

That is actually more reason for bidding than not bidding!

[kgr]

Justin, you are r/w.

oh then I pass, sorry I'm really bad at reading the vulnerability on BBF threads for some reason heh.

Justin,

Could you explain this?

I would think that:

- If you can make 4S then it is more important to bid it when Vuln?

- When opps are Non-Vuln, then it is more likely that RHO is very weak and therefor more likely that you can make 4S?

- ..and when RHO can be very weak they LHO will not DBL you often?

[hanp]

A red against white 4H is different from a white against red 4H.

[WellSpyder]

Would it make any difference if the 1♠ opening was limited by a failure to open a strong club? My partner bid 4♠ with this hand and I was quite impressed with his enterprise....

[kgr]

A red against white 4H is different from a white against red 4H.

Was this an answer to my question in the post above it? If yes:

A white preempt can be weaker, so more reason for us not to pass?

[MickyB]

A red against white 4H is different from a white against red 4H.

Was this an answer to my question in the post above it? If yes:

A white preempt can be weaker, so more reason for us not to pass?

4H at green can be based on less shape, or a weaker suit, which will tend to reduce the number of tricks they can make much more than it will increase the number of tricks we can make.

[hanp]

A red 4H bidder will usually expect to make the contract a fair number of times. That is either based on a very long and strong heart suit (good for us) or maybe on a strong heart suit with a good side suit in diamonds. In either case it is quite likely that at least one contract will make, and possibly both.

 

After a favorable 4H bid, it is very likely that both are down.

[MickyB]

I made the fairly sick 4♠ call, most of the field seemed to actually. Some escaped a double for -200 or -300, we weren't so lucky, losing 800 when East doubled and West passed. However, teammates had us covered - they took 1100 on the same auction.[hv=d=w&v=n&n=skqt82hk6dkj82c84&w=s953h3dat97ckt532&e=sa6haqjt9875dq6c9&s=sj74h42d543caqj76]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv]

[dake50]

Whose partner opens a semi-balanced 5242 12 with no A?

If yours does, doesn't pass 4H stand out?

[lmilne]

Surely no one is passing that north hand...I don't think I would bid 4S, but that isn't the reason.