Pick a call

[pooltuna]

red vs white

IMP pairs

opps using 15-17 INT

you are in 4th seat using SAYC

 

you hold

 

KQJ7

KJT8652

9

7

 

and hear the auction

 

P-P-1NT-?

 

Your call?

[aguahombre]

Your choices are not SAYC. SAYC is X=penalty, suit bids=natural.

 

SAYC is not a flexible card. You are allowed only one or two alterations.

 

http://www.hegerm.ch/textes/sayc.html

[gwnn]

I will bid 2♥?

[rduran1216]

who plays brozel haha, looks like a great hand for it though.

 

I bid 2H meckwell

[gwnn]

I play Lionel which is similar to Brozel, but with natural 2M bids.

 

This would not be a good hand for Brozel, if you mean you'd like to show both majors with 2♥, partner will not know to pass when 3-1 or 3-0 in the majors.

[aguahombre]

Since the real choices are some number of hearts, I choose 3. Maybe with the heart queen and a bullet, pard will raise.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

with 7-4, I wont introduce spades, so it is showing hearts, and given

the vulnerability 3H is enough, but 4H is not out of this world.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[Pict]

3H seems clear in this particulart scenario.

[MFA]

Why is 3♥ 'clear'?

It's not an invitational bid, so he is not going to raise just because he has two aces or one ace and the ♥Q. He will need overall good cards + fit as well.

If we take the realistic view that our passed hand partner is not going to find a raise to 4♥ a significant portion of the time (when he can't raise 2♥ to 3) then there is only the risk left by bidding 3♥ instead of 2♥.

[aguahombre]

MFA, perhaps partner will notice the vulnerability and take a wild guess that I noticed it, too.

[JLOGIC]

Yeah I think 3H here shows a good hand like intermediate. I would just bid 2H though, minor suit kings are not useful at all and partner won't know that.

[Fluffy]

Yeah I think 3H here shows a good hand like intermediate. I would just bid 2H though, minor suit kings are not useful at all and partner won't know that.

partner is sitting with a strong NT behind and will expect us to have a shortness somewhere, I don't think he will overvalue kings much.

[cherdanno]

I'd bid 3H, surprised it's not more popular. If partner raises with an ace, it will probably be a decent game, and meanwhile it makes it tougher for them to decide between 5m and 3N.

[aguahombre]

13 of 16 votes, in a close situation seems popular to me.

[the hog]

I bid 3H. This is a very nice hand for transfer overcalls; bid 2D followed by 3H.

[Siegmund]

I guess I am the lone voice in the wilderness, wanting to show both majors even with 4-7... (though the two-suited methods arent a part of basic SAYC its mighty rare I have someone want to play SAYC but NOT add one of them.) If I were playing one of the fancy 2-suited methods that lets me show whether my higher or lower suit is the longer, I will be even happier to use it.

 

If I don't hurry and press Submit I will let myself be talked into 3H :)

[Codo]

I guess I am the lone voice in the wilderness, wanting to show both majors even with 4-7

You are the wild voice in the lonelines...

 

And there is a reson why you should not treat a one suiter as a two suiter. :)

Or do you prefer 4-2 fits to 7-0 fits?

[Free]

4♥ for me, might be an overbid...