Long suit opposite NT opener

[bd71]

Had two of these today...first the easier one.

 

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=skxhaqjxxxxxdcxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP

1N - ?[/hv]

 

Questions:

 

1. Which transfer to use? After Jacoby tx, I wasn't sure what my diamond void/control-showing options would be in standard bidding since we had no special gadgets. So I chose Texas tx followed by 5D, which partner understood as control-showing.

2. After the transfer, is there any standard method to discover that pd has a club control below 5H? (We had no special gadgets, splinter or otherwise, agreed.)

3. (Related to #2) Any reason not to decide immediately that we should be in 6♥ minimum?

 

 

 

Now the harder one:

 

[hv=d=n&v=n&s=skxhaqjxxxxxdcxxx]133|100|Scoring: MP

1N - ?[/hv]

 

With no minor-suit transfers in your arsenal or other gadgets, is there any way to intelligently explore slam here? I punted 3N...comments?

[hanp]

Both of these hands are pretty much impossible without agreements. I'd suggest just learning a "standard" structure of responses to 1NT with your regular partner. You could for example study bridge world standard. It may not be best but at least you have something.

[karlson]

I do think the first one is an interesting evaluation problem playing standard methods. I guess I would transfer, splinter 4d, and pass 4h, but I'd be feeling awfully chickenish about it.

 

On the second one, decent methods will either let you show a game force with 6+ clubs and let partner show his stoppers/controls, or (even better) let you show a game force with 6+ clubs with diamond shortness. Barring that, of course 3n.

[P_Marlowe]

Hi,

 

#1 One possible option is to bid 2D, followed by a 4D splinter bid.

Your auction is also ok, since 5D will show a 1st round control,

denying controls in spades and clubs.

#2 Playing standard, you could bid 3C, which is forcing, opener with

3 card support and a control rich hand, will make a move, the

harder part will be the 3 card support.

 

With kind regards

Marlowe

[pirate22]

Rose Petal glasses-------First hand bid 2d transfer after pards 2hts {assuming opps do not bid} hit grandma over the head with 4n/t ask ace's.pard must have something in clubs--whater then close out at 6 hts.

 

Second hand suppose 3cl is a starter,if pard signs off in 3 n/t ---pass.

one has to have widgets to handle these types of hands.

best of luck in future endeavours

[manudude03]

1. 2D, 4D, respect a signoff.

 

2. 2S, 3NT (3D if it shows shortness).

 

 

ps. pirate22, 2D followed by 4NT is usually played as quantitative...

[1eyedjack]

I would have just punted 3N on the second hand, even with a method to show GF with clubs and short dias