W Kovacs Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 The only systematic defenses to our 1C opener that my partner have ever seen used are Mathe: 1♣-(x) or 1♣-(P)-1♦-(x) = 4-4 Majors1♣-1NT or 1♣-(P)-1♦-(1NT) = 4-4 minorsAll other overcalls are single suited. And we've seen CRASH (Color Rank and SHape): 1♣-(x) or 1♣-(P)-1♦-(x) = Reds or Blacks1♣-(1♦) = Majors or Minors1♣-1NT or 1♣-(P)-1♦-(1NT) = Pointed (♦♠) or Rounded (♣♥)1♥, 1♠, 2♣, 2♦ are natural single suited. Cheapest NT by advancer asks overcaller to identify his cheapest suit, for a pass or correct scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akhare Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 I like to bid 1♠ showing 0-3♠s. This comes up frequently, it's not a random bid, and it ruins many relay systems. Currently I'm experimenting with canapé overcalls. So far so good, and it's fun ;) Actually, it's possible to play relays through 1♠ interference ;). In a sense, it's similar to playing relays over 1♣ - 1♥ (any semi-positive) - 1♠ (GF relay). (1N)+ of course ruins the party :D.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted September 9, 2010 Report Share Posted September 9, 2010 So my overcalls are the same as I would over standard right?So I suppose over 1c...1d/1h/1s to show 5-card suit, 10+2-level shows the strength of a weak 2Would that work? And higher-level bids are strictly for pre-empt, probably rule of 2 and 3. What about NT bids? Guys, the OP is B/I - keep it simple! Forget canape, semi-random 1S and all that jazz. Overcalls of their natural openings should be similar to standard, yes. Have an agreement about what to use as your cue bid if their 1D opening is nebulous (or worse 0+) and also understand how you can get your diamonds into the auction. Over their 1C 10+ is too restrictive as a range. You are looking to bid 1D/H/S with something like 5-12 and a 5 card suit or even a very good 4 card suit. Your jump overcalls do not show less strength but rather more distribution - a 6 card suit or a good 5-card suit. The partner of the overcaller should raise to the limit at the first opportunity knowing the approximate length opposite. With stronger hands you pass instead of overcalling and bid at the second opportunity. Most balanced hands will pass regardless of strength. For NT bids over 1C I suggest 1NT = minors because it is simple. You can use 2NT however you wish but it should show nice shape in 2 suits (major + minor is a reasonable option). NT bids over their natural openings should follow the same pattern as you use against standard. Higher level bids are pre-empts, not necessarily strictly Rule of 2 and 3 especially at favourable (more like Rule of 4!) but do not go crazy either, especially at red. There are plenty of other defences to a strong 1C around. Some are rather complex. I would advise that you play for a few months with (mostly) natural methods such as these until you have a reasonable feel for what is working and what isn't, what you like and do not like. Only then is it worth running through the more common methods (Truscott, Crash, etc) to see if you think any will work better for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted September 10, 2010 Report Share Posted September 10, 2010 I like to bid 1♠ showing 0-3♠s. This comes up frequently, it's not a random bid, and it ruins many relay systems. Currently I'm experimenting with canapé overcalls. So far so good, and it's fun ;) Actually, it's possible to play relays through 1♠ interference ;). In a sense, it's similar to playing relays over 1♣ - 1♥ (any semi-positive) - 1♠ (GF relay). (1N)+ of course ruins the party :D.... Yes, but the relays are already 2 steps up, it makes the auction more difficult if they don't play symmetric, they have less space, no cuebids if they start bidding natural,... Showing exact shape might get too high for some relay schemes. And partner can still bid something as well ;) It sometimes creates funny auctions when my partner passes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1axbycz1 Posted September 12, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2010 I'm fine with Truscott. It's a rather simple method to show 2-suiters, and partner can raise immediately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acolade Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 The original versions of Precision were quite natural. People quote the 1C bid with it's 1D negative reply, but isn't it akin to other so-called natural systems opening 2C with a 2D negative reply ? Personally I find no pressing need to open 1D with fewer than 4. It is said that you might find yourself opening 1NT on unsuitable hands, but Acol players do so equally as often. I therefore do not regard basic Precision as being non-natural. Most bids means exactly what they say. For people wishing to give the system a try I suggest you get hold of "Precision Bidding and Precision Play" by T. Reese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackshoe Posted September 14, 2010 Report Share Posted September 14, 2010 There is a book called, I think, Natural Precision, by a guy named Brown. It's a very simple version of the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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