UDCA

[InTime]

I was using standard count and are still trying converting and convincing myself to UDCA. The problem I have on this one is what is the correct way to give remainder count?

 

For example: Partner leads the suit and I am sitting with Q632, my Q taken by declarer's A. At a later stage when I have to discard from this suit do I play 6 and the 2 to indicate I have 3 left, or do I play 2 and then 3 to indicate I have started with 4 cards originally? Some bridge players say you give original count (discarding the 2). . . some say you give remainder count (discarding the 6) . . . some say after the first card played in a suit you use normal count to indicate the remainder in the same suit . . . others are seemingly just unsure.

The same thing here after you have given an attitude signal.

 

My question is what is the correct way using it?

 

I personally think that there are a lot of people playing UDCA that will ask you what does remainder count mean? Actually a tournament director said at a stage he does not know what I am talking about . . .

 

I will appreciate rationale comments to a confused UDCA potential user.

 

Regards

[gnasher]

Here are two discussions (of many, I expect) that may help:

 

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.b...1fb339e7517f0e/

 

http://forums.bridgebase.com/index.php?showtopic=176&st=0

 

Neither of these answers the question "What is the correct way?", because there isn't one. There are pros and cons of both present upside-down count and original upside-down count (or current standard count).

[bluecalm]

No strong opinion about which is better but while playing udca in every partnership I don't play reminder count in any. We always signal original number of cards so from Qxxx you play low etc. This is the same as "standard reminder count" I guess. I've never thought about as "reminder" count though.

[Codo]

You give present count or you don't.

 

I do, so from Q632, if I play the queen first, I would return the 3 later.

 

But this has nothing to do with UDCA, I would do the same with "standard", as long as I play 2/4.

[Free]

That depends on your agreement. You can play both. For the record, I play original count (so I'd play low ♠) because we're used to this.