Systems on/off?

[jillybean]

(1x) 1N (2♣) ?

 

If you usualy play systems on after 1N (2♣), do you play systems on here?

[Phil]

Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.

 

I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".

[jillybean]

Thanks Phil, we play systems on over X and 2♣ I need to talk about 3♣

[peachy]

I play Systems On, including Lebensohl.

Dbl of 2C is Stayman. Dbl of RHO's other 2-level bis is whatever you have agreed Dbl to mean in your methods (penalty for many). For Lebensohl, any stopper promise/deny applies only to RHO's suit since 1NT overcall already promised the stopper in their opening suit (LHO's suit).

[kenrexford]

Yes, unless 2♣ is Lair. Then, systems on as if RHO bid Landy.

[jillybean]

Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.

 

I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".

Phil, what is the advantage of playing systems on over 3♣ ?

I see you can have the 1nt bidder playing the hands and could show slam interest

after 1N (3C) 3H (P) 3S etc but you can't ever play in 3♦. Is this not important?

[bluecalm]

People still play 2C as natural here ?

Anyway to simplify things I think it's good to play system on.

[Phil]

Yes. Pretend like the opening bid didn't take place and play what you normally would over 2♣.

 

I hope it is "system on over a x, 2♣, and 3♣".

Phil, what is the advantage of playing systems on over 3♣ ?

I see you can have the 1nt bidder playing the hands and could show slam interest

after 1N (3C) 3H (P) 3S etc but you can't ever play in 3♦. Is this not important?

There's an old post from Fred (really old!) that discusses this.

 

Suffice it to say, playing 3♦ and 3♥ as transfers showing at least an invite works really well. As does a double which is essentially takeout, but functions as Stayman.

[bluecalm]

Suffice it to say, playing 3♦ and 3♥ as transfers showing at least an invite works really well. As does a double which is essentially takeout, but functions as Stayman.

 

+1 for that.

Martens even reccomends using transfers after 3♣ opening !

He also reccomends using transfers after 3H openings/overcall after 1NT (then dbl is transfer to spades and 3S is transfer to 3NT/stopper ask.

 

I wish one day I will form partnership with someone willing to play all those toys :P