kfay Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 [hv=d=n&n=sxxxhdkqj1098cakq2&s=saxxxxhakjxdxcj10x]133|200|[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Recent advances in bridge theory have made it very hard not to focus on clubs with the north hand. Difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I'd always get to 4♠ i suspect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 After 1♦ 1♠2♣ 2♥ ... North should seriously be aiming at 6♦. He only needs three major suit tricks or two major suit tricks and the ♦A and in both cases something to happen with the fourth club for there to be a slam. This is not too much to hope for from a Game Force hand. Spades needs much more in that it specifically needs spade cards. This is not too much to hope for from a game force hand. This is much easier at IMPs than MPs where you will often want to play in the higher scoring spade game if you do not make it to slam. How exactly the bidding will go and whether or not you get to 6♦ is not clear. We could bid ... 4♦ extras with six or more diamonds ... and now it will depend on whether south takes a positive or negative view of his hand. He can almost imagine the actual hand or ♦ AKQ ♣KQ or the equivalent. However without a fit it maybe difficult to move. Our choices would be 4♥ = good hand for diamonds4NT = I hate the whole idea lets play NTs5♦ = bad hand but diamonds is ok With an A and AK we don't hate the whole idea but whether we can bring ourselves to raise diamonds with a small singleton I don't know - although I have had some success on similar auctions without a guaranteed fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Something like 1♦ 1♠2♣ 2♥2♠ 2NT3♦ 3♠4♣ 4♥6♦ P seems ok. I like the 2NT bid instead of 3♠, and when south cooperates toward slam obviously north wants to suggest diamonds as strongly as possible. I don't see south having any reason to overrule. Might I get to this slam off two aces? It's possible. Then again if south has something like Kxxxx AKQx in the majors maybe I'll get a laugh as they lead something that's not a spade. If you take south's exact hand but Kxxxx instead of Axxxx of spades then I don't think he should cuebid, but something like this hand with KQxxx of spades is definitely a real problem. Heart lead from the queen one time?? Anyway I'm not saying I would bid this way, it just strikes me as the most reasonable way I would have to find 6♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 In my partnership, I'm the one that can occasionally smell 6♦ from the North hand with the ♠ losers going on good spades OR ♥. My pard is often the most inspired I've ever seen on when to raise with a small singleton. Not me though. I would be very happy with getting a hand like this right 1 out of 5 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Ouch..i rarely miss a slam after a 1D opening and no intervention but this is one of them. If north decide to grossly overbid 1D-1H1S-1NT (could be weakish relay) here 2C = denies 4H show 5C, under 182D = denies 4H show 4C+5/6D, under 182H = show 4H under 182S is GF with 5C2NT is high short3C is 54223D+ is low short so 3S = 3064 18-22--- ??? 3Nt is to play4C = kec D4D = key C-----------------------4H key S4S (1)----------------Pass Here you are missing 2 keycard for a S contract. Partner rate to have something like. Qxx---KQxxxxAKQx+ a pointed J KQJ---KQJTxxKQxx Qxx---AKQxxxKQxx + a pointed J So it possible to see that 5D is probably safer than 4S (or worse that 6D might be cold and 4S can go down) but further bidding would ask for specific cards :) If north dont overbid. 1D 1H relay1S (clubs)-1Nt relay2D (not 5C nor 4H under 18 pts)---2H GF?? 2S high short2Nt 54223C and + is low short... 3154,2164,3064 3H (3064)-- here responder easily see the H wastage and has a very easy 3Nt. Its near impossible for 4S being better than 3Nt since they will very rarely lead into a 6 card suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Another thought occurred to me after I posted here this morning while I was waiting at the airport for a flight to Christchurch to play the South Island Pairs - Christchurch 7+ Magnitude earthquake today :( epicentre approximately 5km from my sister's home :( but all ok except South Island Pairs cancelled :)... There was some old fashioned advice that I read when I was just starting to learn this game probably from Reese ... "Don't bid a bad suit on a good hand." I think this applies on this hand with regard to showing secondary support for spades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike777 Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Another thought occurred to me after I posted here this morning while I was waiting at the airport for a flight to Christchurch to play the South Island Pairs - Christchurch 7+ Magnitude earthquake today :( epicentre approximately 5km from my sister's home :( but all ok except South Island Pairs cancelled :)... There was some old fashioned advice that I read when I was just starting to learn this game probably from Reese ... "Don't bid a bad suit on a good hand." I think this applies on this hand with regard to showing secondary support for spades. Earthquake, huge in Christchurch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Another thought occurred to me after I posted here this morning while I was waiting at the airport for a flight to Christchurch to play the South Island Pairs - Christchurch 7+ Magnitude earthquake today :( epicentre approximately 5km from my sister's home :( but all ok except South Island Pairs cancelled :)... There was some old fashioned advice that I read when I was just starting to learn this game probably from Reese ... "Don't bid a bad suit on a good hand." I think this applies on this hand with regard to showing secondary support for spades. Hope your family are all ok Wayne. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelandakh Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 Can I choose my own bidding system? 1C........ strong........1H 9+, 4+ spades1S........ relay........1N 4+ hearts2C........ relay........2N 5 spades, 4 hearts, not 54403C........ relay........3D 5=4=1=33H........ relay........4H 12+, 5 controls (ie AAK)4S........ relay........5D controls in spades and hearts but not clubs6D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted September 4, 2010 Report Share Posted September 4, 2010 With strong pass :D Pass - 1♣ -1♦ - 1♥ -1♠ - 1NT -2♣ - 2♦ -2♥ - 2♠ -2NT - 3♦ -3♥ - 4♣ -4♦ - 4♥ -... After 3♦ south's shape is known and that he has 11+hcp and 6+ akq-points. Then following AKQ-ask - 8, king parity ask - odd number of kings (1) So now those AAK are know... now it's about how lucky you feel about fourth club. I guess it's pretty good to bid it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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