gwnn Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 what would you lead against 7H with QJxxQxxxKTxxx it went 1N-2C2H-4C4S-7H 4C was gerber. matchpoints Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrothgar Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 This is a nonsensical auction. What is LHO bidding a grand on? It can't get gobs of points (I have too many)It can't be a running suit (I have honors in everything but Hearts) I'm going to lead a Heart. If LHO didn't bother asking for the King / Queen of Hearts, he must be sitting on a pretty solid collection. In turn, this gives me a passive lead that (hopefully) won't finesse partner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 what would you lead against 7H with QJxxQxxxKTxxx it went 1N-2C2H-4C4S-7H 4C was gerber. matchpoints I'm going to give away the farm (I never liked farming anyway:) ) and lead the ♠J Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I have no idea.Simulations won't help me on this one either.Awaiting replies as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 spade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manudude03 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 heart for me. I'd take a wild guess and say dummy is 6-5 in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 This is a nonsensical auction. What is LHO bidding a grand on? It can't get gobs of points (I have too many)It can't be a running suit (I have honors in everything but Hearts) I'm going to lead a Heart. If LHO didn't bother asking for the King / Queen of Hearts, he must be sitting on a pretty solid collection. In turn, this gives me a passive lead that (hopefully) won't finesse partner. Regular or Key Card Gerber Gwnn? Why does LHO need a running suit for this bidding? I can picture a good hand with 5-6 diamonds and the missing key cards, i.e., x KQxx AKJTxx Ax. That gives RHO AKx, AJxx, xx, QJxx I think this might clue us in that a diamond lead (to eliminate the 2nd finesse) might be in order. I also think that there might be an outside chance partner may be void and didn't x. The other possibility is that the opponents are just plain clueless since they use Gerber here, and I can lead anything and it will fail :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Put me down for a heart too. I'm thinking LHO has 16HCP and a void. Maybe he's 4=5=4=0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Regular Gerber.Actually maybe LHO asked for Kings as well. I wasn't at the table actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggwhiz Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Anything could be right or wrong but I'm in for a ♦x Pard could still hold 4♥ so I'm blowing that off, a ♣ doesn't appeal and (hoping) that there are only 4♥ coming down in dummy for us to have much of a chance, dummy will also have 4+ spades to rule that suit out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I presume 4S = 2 kc without ♥Q. As these days it seems in fashion to bid a grand without trump Q (relying on a trump opening lead to resolve the guess), I am not going to lead a heart. I would probably lead a spade instead, and if I want to be tricky, I'd try the J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 no 4♠ was just 2 aces :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucky Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 no 4♠ was just 2 aces :) Same lead. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
y66 Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 Diamond. Same reason as Phil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted September 2, 2010 Report Share Posted September 2, 2010 I think a heart lead is madness. One of our main chances to beat this is that partner has Jxxx in trumps. Phil's construction is quite convincing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkdood Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 diamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 I think a heart lead is madness. One of our main chances to beat this is that partner has Jxxx in trumps. srsly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwnn Posted September 3, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 dummy has KTxxxKQTxxAKx sorry opener actually said 4NT not 4S my fault a spade gives it away, anything else beats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 dummy has KTxxxKQTxxAKx sorry opener actually said 4NT not 4S my fault a spade gives it away, anything else beats it. I was pretty close. Bidding a grand with the actual hand seems insane so it's pretty hard to reconstruct. Was there extra information we should have known like someone trying for a late swing or a history of making insane bids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtK78 Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 dummy has KTxxxKQTxxAKx sorry opener actually said 4NT not 4S my fault a spade gives it away, anything else beats it. I was pretty close. Bidding a grand with the actual hand seems insane so it's pretty hard to reconstruct. Was there extra information we should have known like someone trying for a late swing or a history of making insane bids? If the partnership does not have sophisticated bidding methods, bidding a grand opposite 3 aces and a 5 card heart suit is not the worst idea I have ever seen. It just takes shortness in spades or the ♠Q in declarer's hand to make 7♥ a virtual claim, and there are some other possibilities (declarer could be 3-5-1-4 and throw his losing spade away on dummy's diamonds, squeeze chances, finesse possibilities if declarer holds the ♠J, and LHO leading a spade from QJx or some other holding that lets declarer pick up the suit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_R__E_G Posted September 3, 2010 Report Share Posted September 3, 2010 Declarer probably isn't 3=5=1=4, he opened 1NT. But you are correct that calling bidding the grand insane is an exaggeration. I'll go with "overly optomistic" instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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