manudude03 Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sakthkt85dkj732ck&s=sj9haj7da6caqj753]133|200|Scoring: IMPs[/hv] BBO tourney, pre-dealt hands. You land in 7NT and receive the ♠6 lead. (clubs break 5-1, East having 5) Pure guesswork? Edit: auction is (no opp bidding) 1C-1H2NT-3D3H-4C4D-4NT5C-7NT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONEferBRID Posted August 31, 2010 Report Share Posted August 31, 2010 Surely, West didn't lead 4th best against a slam.If he did, it places him with the ♠Q.... which is all you would need if the Cl split. Since you said they don't, I've got more to work out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSGibson Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I would need the auction to make the best guess, but I would tend to put missing queens with LHO, not only because of vacant spaces, but also because of restricted choice - assuming that one of the reasons he might not have led a red suit is because he has the queen, all things being equal. The auction influences both inferences, however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echognome Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Since I only have 10 tricks off the top (2♠, 2♥, 2♦, 4♣), I need to develop 3 more. Guessing the heart suit is not enough, so would need both the heart suit and one of the pointed suit finesses to work. If diamonds are Qxx in the slot, I can claim. Therefore, I will start there. Assuming I don't go down immediately, but the ♦Q doesn't fall, then I will go after guessing hearts. I won't play on spades, since the extra trick still isn't enough. I guess I'd have to see which way the cards fell to decide who to play for the ♥Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
655321 Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 In real life, seeing dummy I would expect there to be 12 top tricks, and think the issue was looking for the 13th. So I would win a top spade, cash the club and cross to hand using the ♦A in order to keep my options open in the heart suit. Now when LHO shows out on the next club, I am in some trouble because of entries. Naturally we assume that LHO is likely to have the heart length and the heart queen, but even if we have 4 heart tricks by playing LHO for Q9xx, we can't cash the hearts then get back to hand to take another finesse. LHO will presumably pitch a spade on the ♣A whether or not he has the queen. I would pitch the spade ten, giving up on spades and take the diamond finesse. If it wins, cash the ♦K, ♠K, and cross back to the ♥A. If LHO does have Qxxx in both red suits, he will have to give us 13 tricks. If RHO has a red queen I expect I won't make the contract. There might some gain to keeping the ♠T and pitching a red card, but I think it is less likely that LHO has the ♠Q so I would rather put all my eggs in the red queens with LHO basket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhm Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 Dealer: South Vul: None Scoring: IMPs ♠ AKT ♥ KT85 ♦ KJ732 ♣ K ♠ J9 ♥ AJ7 ♦ A6 ♣ AQJ753 BBO tourney, pre-dealt hands. You land in 7NT and receive the ♠6 lead. (clubs break 5-1, East having 5) Pure guesswork? The lead makes it unlikely that West has the queen of ♠. I see 2 lines of play: Line 1: When you test the ♣ by reaching hand via the ace of ♦ you will see in time that you can not afford a red suit discard. Discard the ten of ♠ and since you will need the ♦ finesse, hook and check whether ♦ break 3-3If not, cash the ♠ ace and come back with ace of ♥ and discard ♦ on the remaining ♣ assuming West will not relinquish his high ♦. Finally finesse in ♥ by leading the jack. If West is long in the red suits he will be squeezed so that the ♥ suit will run.You need West to have Qxx in ♦, or both red queens with length or the ♥9 must drop . Line 2: Come to hand at trick 2 with the ace of ♥ When West discards on the second ♣, discard a ♦ and run the jack of ♥, hoping for 4 tricks in ♥. If they materialize play king and ace of ♦, on which East will be squeezed between the black suits. If ♥ plays for 3 tricks only (West having ♥Q9xx or longer, since you can not afford to repeat the ♥ finesse), you need the queen of ♦ with West. Cash the second ♠ trick, come to the ace of ♦ and discard now the ten of ♠ on the third ♣. On the fourth ♣ West will be squeezed in the red suits. Line 2 is superior, because ♥ are more likely to run for 4 tricks than ♦ for 5. In either case the second red suit finesse is not required. However line 2 is a bit of hindsight: If ♣ break reasonably you prefer to come to the ace of ♦, because leaving your ♥ intact gives much better squeeze chances for the 13th trick. Rainer Herrmann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluffy Posted September 1, 2010 Report Share Posted September 1, 2010 I think I am pitching a diamong and running ♥J ( I entered with ♦A just as the digit. this keeps many squueze options alive, but probably not the good ones :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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