spuit111 Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 How do you defend against 3N gambling openers. Some suggested we could use our standard defence to 1N, so... 4C = both majors4D - single suited M4H = 5H + 4+m 4S = 5S + 4+ m That seems logical? What would X be? General take out, or a strong hand, or what? Maybe if you can take 3N off in your own hand (and they are vulnerable) you are better to pass. More difficult to score as many tricks in 4mX? Advice and all ideas very welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Your proposed scheme is fine. Dbl is some strong hand that can't make any of the other bids, ie it will be balanced, have a long minor, or 5M+4m and too strong for a 4M overcall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spuit111 Posted August 27, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Excellent thank you. What is 3rd hand bids? (3N) P (4♣) where 4♣ is pass or convert. What actions can 4th hand take? Intuitively I suppose 4♦ = majors What about other bids and X? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helene_t Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 You could play 4♦ as majors here but it is useful as a natural bid also. Without having discussed it I would assume we play x=t/o5♣=probably not natural but no idea what it means!4NT=can't be natural either because LHO has 7 tricks against 4NT!Other=natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 I lead an Ace. Honestly, esp. at the B/I level you have much more productive uses of memory/discussion than a defense to a bid that comes up about once every 5000 hands, if that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 I lead an Ace. Honestly, esp. at the B/I level you have much more productive uses of memory/discussion than a defense to a bid that comes up about once every 5000 hands, if that.I lead a....STFU.... Someone in the BI asks a question and you shun them back to the diamond series? I haven't heard of this structure, but it looks like multi-landy. In my partnerships, "Ripstra" (based on a defense to a 1N opening - wayyyy before the "C" and the "D" words). Double = Penalty oriented - any really good hand, or a 1N opening. 4♣ / 4♦ = The 'better' minor and both majors. 4M = natural. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfay Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 I play your scheme. Although it's not 5M + 4m, it's more like 5-5 or better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulg Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 As has been said, the Gambling 3NT is a rare beast and investing significantly in a defence is not a good use of B/I time. That's why I recommend to my B/I friends that they just use their 1NT defence. Not always perfect but it's something they understand. p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Whatever defence you choose you should tend to bid very aggressively with shapely hands over gambling 3NT. I think your scheme is ok. Dbl is needed for strong hands without much shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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