inquiry Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 [hv=d=n&v=e&n=s3ht43dt953ca9876&s=skj92ha852da4ckt4]133|200|Scoring: IMPIf south (east) opens 1NT, West (north) doubles (natural, 15+ any dist), EW (NS) out of the auction after that. If South opens one of a suit, West overcalls 1NT This one was added at the last minute in response to an article in ACBL bullentin about running out of 1NT-x. I didn't expect people to have problems with it, and in fact, the field handled this one quite nicely as a whole. In addition, it is not clear that with 4 hcp you need to run out of 1NTx.[/hv] 2C=10, 1NSx=5, 3CS=4, 2HS=3, 1NW=2, 2NS=1 2CN ant590 - crayzeejim2CN bluecalm/redds2CN East4Evil/sohcahtoa2CS elianna/awm2CN Flycycle/Wackojack2CN gnasher/catch222CS jlall/hanp2CS kfay/jchiu2CS kristen33/jillybean2CN olegru - driver7332CS rogerClee/cherdano1NW tlgoodwin/timg2CN tylere / bid_em_up1NSx hrothgar/Free1NSx Siegmund/MSchmahl3CS peachy/lg622HS jdonn/gib2HS karlson/threenobob2NS sallyally/joylson1NW lobowolf/bkjswan1NW mbodell - javabean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 We were lucky to have fitting agreements here. 1NT - dbl - 2♣ = natural and to play served us well (we play that only after penalty double) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ant590 Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Ditto, thanks Frances! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JavaBean Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Why is 1NT by West (or North or whoever the opponents were) scoring so badly? They are vulnerable and, at least at our table, North will be leading a club (as the 1D opening doesn't show much in diamonds). That gets us 100 for sure, and with West having very few dummy entries, if any, we seem certain to find another trick somewhere for +200. Even if North leads a diamond 50% of the time, that's still ~33% chance at +200, which should come out well above 2 MPs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Why can't W have a club stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Why is 1NT by West (or North or whoever the opponents were) scoring so badly? They are vulnerable and, at least at our table, North will be leading a club (as the 1D opening doesn't show much in diamonds). That gets us 100 for sure, and with West having very few dummy entries, if any, we seem certain to find another trick somewhere for +200. Even if North leads a diamond 50% of the time, that's still ~33% chance at +200, which should come out well above 2 MPs. I think you're overestimating your tricks. You have four clubs and two aces. There is no significant chance for another trick in any suit except spades. So assuming best defense, you are defending 1NT= any time declarer (the much stronger of the opponent hands) has ♠AQ, and you are otherwise defending 1NT-1. On a red suit lead of course, you could easily be defending 1NT+1. Unless you doubled 1NT, +200 is not really in the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's not a great test of skill when you lose 8 just because your 1NT opening doesn't happen to include 15 HCP hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 It's not a great test of skill when you lose 8 just because your 1NT opening doesn't happen to include 15 HCP hands. I agree, I would prefer to not see hands like this that seem to be basically systemically random (there were two, this one and another where you had to stop in 3D opposite a strong NT). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JavaBean Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I think you're overestimating your tricks. You have four clubs and two aces.Whoops, you're right: I counted something twice - it's not 100 for sure. But I doubt 1NT will make often, even when West has ♠AQ, because he will be endplayed often; and the red-suit spots are strong enough that we might conceivably get a second trick in either of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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