olliebol Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=skq73ha93dq84ck43&s=sa8654hq54dj96caq]133|200|Scoring: MPSouth reaches 4 spades on a sp lead.tr are 3-1, how do you play?[/hv] I saw this played a number of times and nobody made a good show of it. Its not a hard hand ( i believe) but one that needs a good look and some planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Kovacs Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 K♠, Q♠, small ♠ to the A, A♣, Q♣, small ♥ to the A, K♣ pitching a ♥ from hand, and lead a small ♥. With a heart return, we get a ruff-sluff, or duck a diamond return to set up a winner in that suit. I doubt there's an overtrick available anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaur Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Is this a beginners hand? First try, and probably wouldnt find anything else at table: K♠, A♠ AQ♣, Q♠, K♣ pitching small ♥lead towards Q♥. LHO overtakes with ♥K and leads back ♥A♥, ruff ♥ and lead ♦ up to a nasty guess At least I get 75% (♥K onside, ♦ guess) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Kovacs, you still have a heart in dummy so you won't be getting any sluffs out of heart return. Everything in the hand points to elimination but I can't see how to execute it so I'll just take my 75% chance with two finesses. (♦T and ♥K) ♠K, ♠A, Clubs, ♠Q, ♣K throwing ♥, then small heart towards the Q. I'm also making with heart king doubleton behind. Damn plaur, beat me to it ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaur Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 K♠, Q♠, small ♠ to the A, A♣, Q♣, small ♥ to the A, K♣ pitching a ♥ from hand, and lead a small ♥. With a heart return, we get a ruff-sluff, or duck a diamond return to set up a winner in that suit. I doubt there's an overtrick available anywhere.I dont see the ruff-sluff on ♥ return Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Yes what plaur said, though having seen this played nobody took that line in the 8 times i saw it played. So is this a beginners intermediate hand or no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flameous Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 lol, what did they do then? I don't really see any reasonable alternatives. Discarded a diamond on the club king or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I guess it seems N/B. I wonder what most people missed - ruffing the heart out before trying diamonds? Or were they all running the queen of hearts as a "finesse"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W Kovacs Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Crap, you guys are right. I still have a ♥ in dummy I conveniently forgot about. At this point I think I need to know who's been pitching on what, to get a count on the opps hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 I know looked at the results from this hand about 35 times. Of all the 35 declarers 3 found the play of testing hearts first and when this goes wrong discarding the losing heart on the club king and guessing diamonds. All the others mostly discarded a diamond on the club king. Also popular was 3 rounds of trumps ,deblocking the clubs, heart to the ace and discard a heart on the club king and play a heart. This comes from a no pay tourney, i think now this isnt a beg/ int hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 23, 2010 Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 this line should be pretty good 1 K♠2 A♠3 A♣4 Q♣5 Q♠6 3♥insert the Q unless K appears hand is over if it does7 assume LHO wins and continues ♥ so A♥8 K♣ pitching ♥9 9♥ ruffed10 6♦ insert the Q unless K or A appears from LHO11 finesse 9♦ on the ♦return ♣♦♥♠ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted August 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2010 Works fine pooltuna, btw i asked a good player and he said its no beginners hand but no expert hand also. It falls in to the category advanced according to him. tx for answers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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