gwnn Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I heard in the club that the most common opening bid is (hidden). I'd like to make a little BBF experiment. I deliberately do not give a bridge hand or a bidding system to go with the question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 1C. Precision! Polish! And it's opened a lot in standard too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PassedOut Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 For me, it's 1NT by a considerable margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachy Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think 1C, and I think it is clear. Playing some sort of natural methods, 1C is opened with clubs, with 3-3 minors, some open 1C with 4-4 minors, with xx clubs in the style where 1C *could be short, with 4-4 clubs and major. In addition, strong club systems, Polish Club and some home brew systems as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think clearly 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyberyeti Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think clearly 1♣. If you play strong NT I guess 1♣, weak NT may well be 1N. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I think clearly 1♣. If you play strong NT I guess 1♣, weak NT may well be 1N. What is this "if"? This question is being asked of all bridge players who play all systems combined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjbrr Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 There should be a feature to make polls public so that we can see who voted for what. I would like to know the joker who clicked 3♦. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cherdanno Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Clearly 2D - it's open with both majors weak, both majors strong, one major weak, diamonds weak, ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 It will not be 1C, because those of you who play 1C systems will know that 1C does not come up often. what do you open when you can not open 1C? The more strong club players in the field, the less likely 1C will be opened. Also, playing 5 card major it will not be either major. And when playing better minor you are likely to open 1D as you are 1C. So I vote for 1D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I don't think it's 1♦ but I was waiting for someone to suggest it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I don't think it's 1♦ but I was waiting for someone to suggest it. well i lot of people are opening 2 card clubs suits 1C, so clubs might win out. But again, since strong club needs 16 hcp or so to open 1C, the higher frequency of players playing a strong club bidding system, the lower the number of 1C openings there will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 But those will be at least partially (and maybe more) balanced by those playing Polish-type systems where about 90% of the Std 1♣ openers are still 1♣ + the extra stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awm Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 In a weak notrump environment it would be 1NT. For example in England I expect that 1NT is the most common opener. However, worldwide I don't think weak notrump is all that popular. Playing strong notrump in a standard style, it's 1♣. This is even more true if you play a short club of some type. Playing polish club, it's also 1♣. Playing precision, 1♦ is more common than 1♣. However, it's not necessarily by a huge factor, and I'm not convinced this outweighs the high 1♣ frequency in standard and 2/1 (and polish). Overall I'll go with 1♣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerE Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I do wonder if it might be 1M...just because people will stretch more to open. So I'm going to go out on a limb and say 1♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MickyB Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If you open 1C with 3-3 and 1D with 4-4, is 1C actually more frequent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 1♣>1♦ 1N seems more likely than 1♥ or 1♠ however. I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 In a weak notrump environment it would be 1NT. For example in England I expect that 1NT is the most common opener. Assuming so called 'modern' Acol style (weak NT, 4 card majors and 4432 shapes outside the NT range opened in H/S/D/C priority order), then it is very close between 1NT and 1H. However, there are those who open up the line, those who play 5 card majors or 5 card spades and those who like strong NT, and a few who like strong club systems, which changes the overall picture. Weak NT is, never the less, quite ubiquitous at least in the MP club arena, so probably overall, 1NT wins out. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mbodell Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Pass is obviously the most common, but after pass I think 1♣ is next most common. Certainly in places where strong NT and SA or 2/1 are the most common systems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Gosh, I hate proving myself wrong. Here is the result for 100,000 opening bids using Bridgebrowser. The one 7NT opening was doubled and redoubled and down 13 btw, so we can assume that was probably not a good bid. :D 1C 162351D 154001H 126591S 129581NT 94422C 18012D 7732H 12012S 12352NT 19493C 4103D 3623H 3363S 3583NT 1024C 354D 204H 2614S 2734NT 145C 205D 285H 05S 05NT 06C 16D 26H 56S 46NT 17C 07D 07H 07S 07NT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Thanks Ben (as usual). Sad that two of my favorites - 4 of a minor - are about 12:1 less likely than 3 of a minor, but fairly close to 5m. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inquiry Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 The first 100,000 hands was from main room. so i thoujht maybe the partnerships were pick up and not playing good systems (like precison, where 1D would be the most common opening), so I looked at 100,000 from tournaments on BBO. Sadly, the results were essentially the same... i don't guess my guess will ever be right :D 1C 217991D 195701H 144661S 156691NT 114602C 24862D 16852H 20312S 24672NT 20593C 8513D 9513H 6593S 7213NT 1144C 754D 1194H 7074S 6414NT 365C 575D 1285H 45S 25NT 26C 156D 106H 166S 96NT 07C 17D 07H 17S 07NT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 1♣ is pretty obvious in most cases, because it contains most possible hand types. However in a club where everyone plays precision, the most frequent opening is probably 1♦ or 1NT. If everyone plays MAFIA style ACOL then 1M or 1NT might be most frequent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shintaro Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 :D only one person so far has put the most common opener PASS :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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