jillybean Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I was dealt this hand at the club last night [hv=d=n&v=n&s=s54hakj9dq7cakj86]133|100|Scoring: MP[/hv] P (1♠) 2♣ (3♠)P (P) X (P) 4♣ (4♠) ? Do you agree with the bidding so far?, what do you do now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would double at my first turn. I have done enough bidding now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 If I pass here, how often is partner passing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooltuna Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would double at my first turn. I have done enough bidding now. this gets my vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I didn't double first time , hoping to bid ♥'s next turn. [hv=d=n&v=n&n=sthqt62dt92cqt543&w=s9732h8754dk865c2&e=sakqj86h3daj43c97&s=s54hakj9dq7cakj86]399|300|Scoring: MP[/hv] P (1♠) 2♣ (3♠)P (P) X (P) 4♣ (4♠) X =4♠X+1 :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vuroth Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I didn't double first time , hoping to bid ♥'s next turn. Don't take this as expert advice, by any stretch, but... I used to feel that way, but I'm starting to waver. If partner really answers in ♦s, well, the hand wasn't really going anywhere anyways, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jillybean Posted August 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I didn't double first time , hoping to bid ♥'s next turn. Don't take this as expert advice, by any stretch, but... I used to feel that way, but I'm starting to waver. If partner really answers in ♦s, well, the hand wasn't really going anywhere anyways, right? Sorry, I don't understand this. If I double and partner bids 2♦ I will bid 3♣, if he bids 2♦/2♣ I pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I noticed Kit, among others, favors heavy overcalls with a plan to takeout doubles in many situations. I wonder if the 2C bid influenced East to pass 3S; I bet many times a double by you would come back around at 4♠ ---and bring different problems. Do you double again now (only your second opportunity to call) and pray not to see 5♦ from CHO? I think you were a bit fixed that the auction wasn't:(1S) 2C (3S) P(4S) X (P) 5c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 if he bids 2♦/2♣ I pass.Really? If I overcall 2C and partner bids 2D, that is encouraging --not fright. I will still be bidding while they are folding up the tables at the end of the session, with this monster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerben42 Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 Call me modern but I think overcalling was a fine plan. I also hate sequences where opponent mess up and we cannot see that we are about to push them into a cold game that they simply forgot to bid. Luckily as you play against stronger opponents this happens less and less. The main lesson is that you doubled 3♠ and partner got the picture. He'll double with some defense and defend with some shape, so you should pass. In fact, partner was probably about to bid 5♣ before you doubled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel_k Posted August 19, 2010 Report Share Posted August 19, 2010 I would pass 4♠, but your partner should have bid more last round, and the round before that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingolfin3 Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 If I'm North, there's no way I'm not bidding 4/5♣ with a 10+ card fit and a singleton in their suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilkaz Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I am torn between doubling initially or overcalling, but the final X of 4♠ really is bidding the same values twice. .. neilkaz .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 I am torn between doubling initially or overcalling, but the final X of 4♠ really is bidding the same values twice. .. neilkaz .. I think it is more like remembering you had a good hand at the beginning of the auction and not noticing that it has become worse (for defense) now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanp Posted August 20, 2010 Report Share Posted August 20, 2010 Definitely double initially! if 2C was passed out (How unlikely is that when we have 18 HCP and only 5 clubs?) I would be very worried about missing 4H. I now see it is MPs... I would still double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryallen Posted August 22, 2010 Report Share Posted August 22, 2010 Call me modern but I think overcalling was a fine plan. I also hate sequences where opponent mess up and we cannot see that we are about to push them into a cold game that they simply forgot to bid. Luckily as you play against stronger opponents this happens less and less. The main lesson is that you doubled 3♠ and partner got the picture. He'll double with some defense and defend with some shape, so you should pass. In fact, partner was probably about to bid 5♣ before you doubled. If you consider the bidding of 2♣, followed by the X of 3♠, followed by pass of 4♠, can you define your hand any better? I feel you have defined your hand so well, it is a relatively easy decision to leave the final decision to partner, your work is done here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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