Forcing or not?

[Little Kid]

1♣-(Pass)-1♥-(1♠)

2♥-(Pass)-3♣

 

Would you expect 3♣ to be forcing? Do you think it should be forcing? For the purpose of this discussion 2♥ can be 3card support.

[aguahombre]

Yeh, at least in our world it is forcing because responder didn't have to bid at all. If spades had been raised, we play that 3C is not forcing.

[MFA]

I used to think that this should be forcing, but I don't anymore.

[Siegmund]

If 2H promises 4 it's clearly forcing at least to 3H.

 

With 2H promising only 3, it's not clear to me what the best approach is. (That's why I play 2H promises 4, actually - that way I at least know what my system is.)

[pooltuna]

I used to think that this should be forcing, but I don't anymore.

yeah, why would we want to invite when we are perfectly capable of masterminding the auction and just bid 4♥. And partner's opinion is of no consequence since we are such good masterminds :)

[MFA]

I used to think that this should be forcing, but I don't anymore.

yeah, why would we want to invite when we are perfectly capable of masterminding the auction and just bid 4♥. And partner's opinion is of no consequence since we are such good masterminds :)

lol?

[olliebol]

Invitational but not forcing, opener passes with 3crd heart support in a normal opening hand. He bids 3 hearts with 4 and a minimum or else 4 hearts with 4 and max.

[benlessard]

If you play support double, 2H show 4, so 3C should be forcing.

 

Looking for slam or telling partner what to do over 4S(unlikely here) is way more important than being able to play 3C instead of 3H.

 

If 2H can be 3 cards than its surely possible 54 or even 5-5 play better than 43.

 

Often when you knnow its the hand with 3 trumps that ruff 3H in 43 will play well but here it could easily be

 

3325 vs 2434 (2425) where 3H will play terribly.

[OleBerg]

I used to think that this should be forcing, but I don't anymore.

yeah, why would we want to invite when we are perfectly capable of masterminding the auction and just bid 4♥. And partner's opinion is of no consequence since we are such good masterminds :)

LOL

FYP

[gnasher]

I've never thought this should be forcing. If it's forcing, a 4-4 invitation is unbiddable; if it's non-forcing, some game-forces are more awkward to bid, but no hand is completely unmanageble.

[JLOGIC]

I think having better methods is the answer to this but playing everything totally natural and raising on 3 sometimes I guess 3C should be NF.

 

Personally I always play support Xs, but if it was some uncontested auction or something I think you should play 1C 1H 2H 2S as an asking bid and then you should be able to stop in 3C if you had a 4-4 invite which allows 3C to be used as a slam try.