mohitz Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 ♠K9x ♥Qx ♦AQx ♣AKJTx Teams, we vul, they not. RHO playing 2/1 deals and the auction starts (1♠) - X - (p) - 2♦(3♠) - ? What now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerclee Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Pass, it's possible RHO just owned us and we're cold for 3N, but I don't see how we're getting there other than me just bidding 3N. That is way too big a position to take to me, so we are stuck with solo-ing to the 4 level or just defending (if we double partner is very likely just gonna bid 4m). I will just try to go plus against 3S, which seems way more likely than making 4m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 I double again, extras without clear direction. It's possible partner will pull when I'd rather be defending but I think I'm just too good to give up. 3NT is possible too, some hands with just the king of diamonds give me play on a spade lead. Actually I'm torn but I know I won't pass though it could be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Pass. First instinct was 3NT but after thinking about it I think it won't make too often and sometimes it will be disastrous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Pass. Not happy about it but doubling again could be very silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickRW Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Pass, X and 3N could all be right. At the table I think I'd probably gamble on 3N. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliebol Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 Would bid three no trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 3NT. Ugly but I think we have to hope for the best. It's hard to see the upside of doubling again. Pass is too wimpish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wclass___ Posted August 14, 2010 Report Share Posted August 14, 2010 3NT Partner doesn't have many spades, so he might have had choice which suit to rebid. He took 2♦ and RHO bid 3♠ seeing that, so why shouldn't i hope partner has some really nice stuff in ♦?Plus RHO might as well save in 4♠. Good problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudH Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 ♠K9x ♥Qx ♦AQx ♣AKJTx Teams, we vul, they not. RHO playing 2/1 deals and the auction starts (1♠) - X - (p) - 2♦(3♠) - ? What now?Doesn't doubling again show a hand with this much strength with 3-card support for partner's suit, and letting partner decide whether to defend or bid on? Frankly, I'd be estatic if partner passes out 3S doubled, since K9x is a much better holding defensively than I would usually have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirk Kuijt Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 This isn't quite an answer to the question, or, if you prefer, an abstention. I wouldn't double in the first place; I prefer 1NT to doubling with a doubleton heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonn Posted August 15, 2010 Report Share Posted August 15, 2010 Yeah I want to change from double to 3NT. Still won't pass but if I'm going to act I might as well go for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codo Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3 NT, if not me who? If not now, when? Will it always work? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricK Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3NT for me. Lots of ways it could be right; lots of ways it could be wrong. But the same could be said for every other call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3N. Could be ugly but it won't be a bloodbath, but returning to teammates with +100 when gin for 3N when we got jobbed out of our cold game doesn't seem very enjoyable either. We don't need a whole lot here, and its negative thinking to assume partner has a yarb across. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I'm a 3N bidder....I was before I read the comments and I read nothing that changed my mind. There is one minor issue that no-one has yet touched on....maybe because it is a remote possibility. I'd be a little worried that RHO will win the first spade and, seeing something like KJxxx in diamonds, decide that he needs to beat us quickly and then switches to AK and a 3rd heart....running 5 or 6 hearts and going plus 300. Oh well, c'est la vie....a good partner will hold Jxx in hearts, or a good opp will hold AKJ tight :rolleyes: BTW, isn't it common to play 3♠ here as semi-preemptive? If so, surely that increases the chances that 3N is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 This was the full hand. 3N can make. [hv=d=e&v=n&n=sxhkt8xdj8xxxc98x&w=sxxhaj97xxdt9xxcx&e=saqjtxxxhxdkcqxxx&s=sk9xhqxdaqxcakjtx]399|300|Scoring: IMP[/hv] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeh Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 I'm willing to bet that a significant majority of good players would have bid 2♥ as North, not 2♦. Not sure how that changes things, if at all.....would tend to make me more reluctant to bid 3N, tho, so on the actual hand, I'd be happy he bid 2♦ :rolleyes: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3N is a joke contract and will go down on a normal line of play (cashing the AK of clubs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3N is a joke contract and will go down on a normal line of play (cashing the AK of clubs). Actually, that's not true. Even after cashing AK of clubs, 3N can be made because East's hand is cut off. Assuming spade to the Queen ducked. Ace of spade. Jack of spade we win. We cash AK of clubs, west showing out. We can now play three rounds of diamonds and put West in with the third. If West returns the Ace of heart, we throw the Queen! If West returns low heart win in hand and play back heart losing 2 spades, 1 diamond and 1 heart trick only. Agree that 3N is a poor contract but. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 3N is a joke contract and will go down on a normal line of play (cashing the AK of clubs). Actually, that's not true. Even after cashing AK of clubs, 3N can be made because East's hand is cut off. Assuming spade to the Queen ducked. Ace of spade. Jack of spade we win. We cash AK of clubs, west showing out. We can now play three rounds of diamonds and put West in with the third. If West returns the Ace of heart, we throw the Queen! If West returns low heart win in hand and play back heart losing 2 spades, 1 diamond and 1 heart trick only. Agree that 3N is a poor contract but. Yes this is true, good point it is still cold after the AK of clubs is cashed. Pretty funny. Although we have to pitch from dummy twice on the spades. Presumably we will be trying to keep 98x of clubs in dummy catering to the CQ dropping and Kx of diamonds onside? In that case we pitch 2 red cards from dummy and go down I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohitz Posted August 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 Although we have to pitch from dummy twice on the spades. Presumably we will be trying to keep 98x of clubs in dummy catering to the CQ dropping and Kx of diamonds onside? In that case we pitch 2 red cards from dummy and go down I think. Yea, true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MFA Posted August 17, 2010 Report Share Posted August 17, 2010 ... and meanwhile we would have had to bring in the sharp defense to avoid giving declarer his ninth trick in 3♠. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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