rogerclee Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 and in the end it doesn't matter that much, and it's up to you what kind of style you want to play. But there are no really good pairs who pass it.It's true that I don't think many top pairs typically pass holding a bad 10-11 6322 with a 6 card major, but that is not my point. Maybe the EV on opening 1M/2M vs pass is positive, but I bet it isn't huge, and all I was saying was that for succeeding at whatever level vuroth wants to succeed at, worrying about what this hand should be opened is not a hugely constructive use of his time, since it all amounts to about the same thing, and every style is playable as long as you follow that style. There are a lot of obstacles in becoming a "really good" player, but worrying about weak two style isn't one of them, because despite what you might read on BBF, the world will not explode if you open a hand like QTxxxx Ax Qxx Qx with 2S first seat at all red. I wanna add though that I'm not advocating anything but opening 1S with the hand in the OP (I think it's pretty obvious), just that all this talk about it being crazy to pass or open 2S is totally unwarranted, if your definition of crazy is "hugely -EV". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aguahombre Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 and in the end it doesn't matter that much, and it's up to you what kind of style you want to play. But there are no really good pairs who pass it.That settles it, then. My research and polling skills are not that good, so I defer. It is hard enough to just remember what I would do. Would probably open 1♠ unless I received some of that ESP or thought it was time for a swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecalm Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 I wanna add though that I'm not advocating anything but opening 1S with the hand in the OP (I think it's pretty obvious), just that all this talk about it being crazy to pass or open 2S is totally unwarranted, if your definition of crazy is "hugely -EV". I agree with you, for one I was one of the few who want to open 2♠ with that hand.Passing is a problem though. Of course one situation doesn't matter in big picture but if you want to win you have to bid a lot and if you start passing in more spots with good values and good 6carder then you have pretty big leak in your game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P_Marlowe Posted August 11, 2010 Report Share Posted August 11, 2010 Hi, as long as you do it always with similar hands (*), it is not unreasonable,although you have to keep in mind, that such an action is not the mainstream action, and going against the field is usually not a good idea playing MP. (*) Except for tactical reasons, I have no idea, in what kind of situation,but when peoble talk about tactical bids, they usually refer to stretching, but"underpreempting" is also a possible tactical way of randomizing the possibleoutcome. With kind regardsMarlowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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