wank Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 [hv=d=s&v=n&n=sajxxhkjxdktxxcxx&s=sxxhqxxxdcaqjxxxx]133|200|Scoring: IMP[/hv] South passed as dealer.....contentious? North opened 1S 3rd in (strong NT, 4cM) east doubled South bid 2C - not playing xfers here west bid 2D back to south who bid 3C round to east who bid 3D and that was it. -2 for +100 was poor compensation for a good and making vul 3NT. 5C also makes rather fortunately.....further question, if after however you bid it, west doubles 3NT would you run? I don't know whether west would have doubled at our table, but we scored up with -1150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLOGIC Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnasher Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 I'd open the South hand, but wouldn't insist on game with the North hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gszeszycki Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Dealer: South Vul: N/S Scoring: IMP ♠ AJxx ♥ KJx ♦ KTxx ♣ xx ♠ xx ♥ Qxxx ♦ ♣ AQJxxxx p p 1s x2c 2d p p3c p p 3dp p p before commenting on this hand how would the bidding proceed if S held sayx Qxxx x KJTxxxx My guess is the bidding would proceed exactly as the auction shown and thereinlies the problem. The S hand is a very reasonable pass fearing a preemptive bidwould bury a heart fit but S did not do enough to try and differentiate between the actual hand held and the much weaker example hand i provided. Assuming everyone is happy with a 2c bid (which I am not) the very least S could do is bid 2h vs 3c. This bid would at least show a much better club suit and at the same time give N a clue as to why S didnt open with say 3c right away (fear of missing a heart fit) this bidding might show a hand similar to x Qxxx x KQJxxxx. S has to appreciate the opening bid by p along with the X by rho means the club Kis an overwhelming favorite to not be in lho hand. Once we realize this our hand is now worth 7 tricks not too shabby for a passed hand. This leads me to wonder whynot xx vs 2c? This bid still leaves open the possibility of a heart fit (whereas the non forcing 2c bid once again threatens to bury a heart fit) and lets p know you are near top of your power range for a passed hand. We are prepared for anything N does (surely we dont fear 1s xx) and now we have a fighting chance to get to game. If the bidding continues as before after 2d p p (surely p would bid hearts if they had hearts and a weakish hand) I would bid 3d which should clarify just how good my(obviously clubs) hand is and trust p judgement from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benlessard Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 AQJxxxx with a highly probable K to the right look like a very possible 7 tricks to me if partner got a doubleton clubs, so even if 2C seems normal i think its a mistake compared to XX followed by 3C. I dont remeber last time ive had a bad score because they played 1Nt xx making. So here im not afraid to XX without full values because i think the % that the bidding return at 3D is acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the hog Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I would open the hand 3C and I would pass with the North hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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